Hi Hassan, OK, yeah perhaps it was word by word (poor memory). As I had the thing set up previously the whole title <h1> wrapped under the logo as one big block leaving a huge white space at the top, especially when the browser font was at 36pt (I guess that was how I had the DIV working). You are right that the span wasn't needed in this case and it works fine without. A harder problem is understanding how to get my lovely breadcrumb navigation floated left; (in a span) and search area floated: right (in a span) to work as nicely as it used to now that I've progressed into using Chris Schmitts elegant horizontal <UL> for my breadcrumbs. Again, I have mistakenly put this fundamental block element inside a span. Not so easy to fix this and I cant see an examples of how someone has used the horizontal list approach for breadcrumbs and has something else right justified (like search). Am not keen on fixing pixel widths. I guess I'm just learning - I will continue to mess around and evolve into a less ignorant being! Cheers. Carl > -----Original Message----- > From: Hassan Schroeder [mailto:hassan at webtuitive.com] > Sent: 14 August 2003 16:26 > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: Re: [thelist] Declaring <h1> display:inline creates > invalid XHTML (Strict) - an y ideas? > > > carl.myhill at ps.ge.com wrote: > > > the whole <h1> wrapped fairly crudely. By changing this to > > display:inline I was able to achieve nicer letter by letter wrapping > > For the life of me, I can't figure out what you mean by > "letter by letter wrapping". As I increase the font size, the > H1 and P contents both wrap at *word* boundaries. And that > behavior's the same whether each is declared block or inline, > so I'm not sure what your goal is. > > But you can't have block elements like H1 and P contained in > an inline element like SPAN. And in this case the SPAN seems > utterly extraneous -- try removing it and styling the H1 and > P directly. > > > <div id="header_titleright"> > > <span id="header_titleright_span"> > > <h1>Impington Swimming Club</h1> > > <br /> <!--needed now because these are both now > > inline elements--> > > <p>A friendly Masters Swimming Club > just north of Cambridge</p> > > </span> > > HTH, and apologies if I've missed something key! > -- > Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com > Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com > > dream. code. > > > > -- > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !