Joel, I started programming with PHP about 4 yrs ago. At the time there were 3 or 4 PHP books available and I bought all of them. One of those books was Wrox's Professional PHP programming. The book was probably the best one at the time. However I read through the book and then put it away since I ended up doing most of my learning using online tutorials found on sites like: http://www.phpbuilder.com/ http://www.zend.com/developers.php http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/PHP http://www.phpcomplete.com/ AND...the PHP mailing list. Since then a lot of PHP books have came out. One of the best books I've seen lately is Oreilly's Programming PHP by Rasmus Lerdoff (the creator of PHP). It is well written, concise to the point, and the author also suggest best method approaches to accomplishing certain tasks. Oreilly books aren't for all beginners. I remember a few years back I found Oreilly books too complicated and hard to follow but now the only books I buy are Oreilly books. My advice is to visit your nearest book store and look through all the PHP books available. At that point you can decide which is best for you. Also go to amazon.com search for PHP books and read customer reviews. Additional books you'll want to look at are: PHP and MySQL Web Development by Luke Welling, Laura Thomson Web Database Applications with PHP & MySQL by Hugh E. Williams, David Lane (Paperback - March 2002) MySQL, Second Edition by Paul DuBois SQL Queries for Mere Mortals: A Hands-On Guide to Data Manipulation in SQL by Michael J. Hernandez, John L. Viescas Joe Celko's SQL for Smarties: Advanced SQL Programming by Joe Celko And eventually you may want these in your library: PHP Cookbook by David Sklar, Adam Trachtenberg PHP Developer's Cookbook by Sterling Hughes, Andrei Zmievski MySQL Cookbook by Paul DuBois Hope this helps. Ralph Guzman -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Joel Konkle-Parker Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:25 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: [thelist] PHP book for the wealth-challenged I'm a hobbyist web developer and poor college student trying to develop a database-driven website with MySQL and PHP. As such, I'm looking for recommendations for a book that will teach me the basics (and not-so-basics). I've seen the Wrox books (Beginning PHP, Professional PHP) and the O'Reilly book (Programming PHP), but I can't decide which one to spend my hard-earned cash on. Has anyone out there used both? Which was better? Or anyone had a good experience with one or the other? -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] Phone [662-518-1636] E-mail [jjk3 at msstate.edu] -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !