SV: [thelist] Patents screw plug-ins

Marcus Andersson marcan at home.se
Fri Sep 12 10:05:27 CDT 2003


It's the way biz is done mostly in the US (and some other places and
global businesses since they have to compete in the US, but mostly
there), the home of $$$ and law suites.

I think that ideas that is a natural and logic development (the next
step or evolution if you want) shouldn't be passed as patents. Patents
should be really unique stuff and not things that anyone can come up
with (if you ask me anyway), like in this case, where it wasn't that
unique thinking (I don't think anyone looked into the patent registry to
lookup the idea of plug-ins and then implement it, everyone just did and
not thanks to Eola). 

I know that this is idealistic thinking but there are many people around
that share these thoughts and, given time (long time probably), there is
a possibility that this way of business dies away (could be many
reasons).

/Marcus

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tony...

the world may have gone mad... but not due to this!!!!

hey..it's a fact... if you develop something novel/unique/etc.... then
you perhaps should have a right to make $$$ off it. if you develop some
code for a customer, you don't want somebody else ripping you off.
neither does the guy who's developed something and patented it... this
is the way the ballgame is played....

in the case of plug-in technology... apparently there are a number of
patent issues surrounding it. in this case, msoft's pissed because
they're on the other side of the shoe.. there have been numerous cases
where they've filed suit... it's a price of biz... and yes, the fact is
that plug-ins might go away, at least as you or i know them...

complain all you want, but the biz that has the patents might not really
listen to you!!!

this is the way biz is done.... welcome to the world... is it a
pain..yeah.. do i like it...no.. would i fight like hell to make sure
you don't infringe on my patent if i had one that was valuable..hell
yes!!! and i'm pretty sure you would too!

but this is also why for some things, it's good put them into the public
good.... the trouble with this approach..is who gets to decide what's in
the public good... so the best approach, is if you come up with a
patentable idea.. and you think it has serious value..go ahead and put
it into the public domain... there are a number of organizations that
would work with you to make sure it couldn't be taken private....

have fun!!

ps. for laughs...check out the patent issues/fights that are slowly
starting with streaming audio/video.. acacia research..(sp?) they're
going after the adult industry, claiming that streaming of content
infringes on their patents...


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[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Tony Crockford
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Subject: [thelist] Patents screw plug-ins


Am I reading this right?

http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5074799.html

A java applet linked from a web page infringes a patent and all such
applets and plug-ins will need new delivery mechanisms as yet unthought
of?

How do I complain?

next thing we know it'll be animated gifs and banner ads served from a
different server.

World's gone mad I say!

;o)


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