Hey list, <blabla> My name is Jelle Desramaults, i'm a belgian webdesigner and new to the list, nice to be here. i"ll start off with a bit of a selfish post, </blabla> iv'e set up my basic css layout on : http://www.chong.be/mountaintop/index2.html first try on the non-table approach my setup is winXP, IE 6.0, opera 7.23, mozilla 1.5 hopefully my css stands strong in the face of older versions :) tia, <tip> lotsa possibilities for cross browser & cross platform site testing, http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_features.html "VMware Workstation allows us to simultaneously run several operating systems on a single PC. The ability to handle multiple functions ... blabla" </tip> Jelle Desramaults http://www.chong.be