Actually it relates more to the mundanes who use wizards and think they are designers. I was planning the IA of a very difficult site. At the same time teaching myself flash for the intro page (Forgive me it was 1999). He called me into his office and told me that "he does not see why it is taking me so long" He had bought software and was able to create a site over the weekend. I laughed and said "what did you do buy FP and us the wizard?" That's what he did. BTW he also called someone who he respected and asked if he should hire a designer that used FP. The guy said that no real designer uses FP. Bottom line is most have no idea there is code under all the pages. They only care about the look and generally wowed by glitz. Scott Wolpow At 03:09 PM 1/23/04, you wrote: >What's been interesting to me in the 12-year-old discussion is a more basic >question whether a website is a product or an entity? A guy who doesn't see >the difference between a website built by his 12 year old son or by a >professional probably also thinks of a website as a product - a thing you >buy off the shelf and consume ... Not necessarily as an entity that supports >his business. Maybe that's what he wants, but I doubt it because he's >already called a professional. > >-chris > > >-----Original Message----- >From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org >[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Eveline >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:30 AM >To: Evolt List >Subject: [thelist] Re: My 12 year old son can do websites > > >Hi all, > >I am following this discussion from the beginning and what strikes me the >most, is that a lot of people describe a website as something that is put on >the internet. Is it possible that a 12 year old can make a "website": yes, >on his own level, are there websites on the internet that a 12 year can not >possibly make: also yes. Are there good comic books for children: yes, is >there great literature (say e.g. "Lord of the Rings") that a child cannot >possibly understand? Also yes.... Do we compare childrens comic books with >"Lord of the Rings".... no, of course not. So why are we doing it then when >comparing websites? > >Just a thought...... > >Eveline Vanhemel > >-- >* * Please support the community that supports you. * * >http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > >For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester >and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org >Workers of the Web, evolt ! > > > >-- >* * Please support the community that supports you. * * >http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > >For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester >and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org >Workers of the Web, evolt !