Response: I find their claims a bit too broad. While I'm sure some developers, programmers and the like resolve full rights to *some* clients, it's hard to imagine someone turning over all their scratch notes, rough drafts and written knowledge gained over many years alongside the actual final product. As I've heard somewhere, artists allow you to purchase their music, thereby purchasing a license to listen to it, but you never own the music itself. You could suggest to the client (if you're willing to invest in them further) that a clause be added for suspension of reuse of this particular product/code by you for a certain length of time, say a year. Not necessarily efficient and productive for you, but its an option. One resource: http://www.ivanhoffman.com/ HTH divaone ~ [Wes Reed] ~snipped: We generally contract with our clients to license any programming to them with the rights to do anything they want with it forever but retain ownership. They claim that nobody works this way and the other bidders did not have this kind of specification.