Hello List, I do not have access to a MAC and I have been told there is a problem with the rendering of (http://spiralwinder.com/) on MAC IE 4+. Any help would be greatly be appreciated. I know the XHTML is not validating right now, The code in that area will soon be replace once I implement J.I.R. This will come next. TIA, -- ======================================= Brian W. Reaves http://BrianReaves.com