>> Here's one I threw out to my client last night and absolutely loved it. >> >> http://www.azuritedesign2.com/Ginault%20Print/pictures/logo/Header/Sitemap.p hp That looks great - might have to borrow that idea :-) On a linked note, an interesting tool that I sometimes use on the developer side of things is Astra Site Manager: http://developer.netscape.com/software/tools/listing/deployment/siteasset/Me rcury/mercury.html It allows you to see a visual representation of your site and get a feel for the overall 'balance'. I'm not convinced it's always that accurate, but it can be worth a place in your toolbox, as it were. (not sure what the licence restrictions are any more, it seems to have gone through a change of ownership) Rich Osborne -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !