Tom wrote: <snippet> It's interesting that I just watched MM slides on this product, and on the surface it looks like a great product. We need a CMS that IS convenient for plain old office people. I don't think MM is saying they can cover all the bases of good web design with their product. Aren't they saying "here's a way to easily manage your content" of that website while attempting to support standards? etc... </snippet> Like I said, it's not a terrible product. And I should have been clearer: I don't think they're saying they're covering all the bases with one product. I dunno... when I look at all the custom CMS's I've done for sites at work, and also compare Contrib to the open-source, web-based CMS's cited here as well, it just seems like an inferior solution to either. Again, because you lose control and are not able to make the best site possible, and why? Just so one can crank one more site out and so users can edit a Web site as if it were a Word document. Nevermind the fact that it's NOT a Word document, nor is it even close... ===== http://www.Pixelmech.com/ - read my latest blog posting! John 3:16 -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !