Tony Crockford wrote: >> Maybe active is the wrong word, it is the wrong word I meant onstate. > > are you looking for a:hover ? Is this they type of thing you were wanting? http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/271/highlighting-current-page- with-css And you may want to avoid using pseudo selectors after reading this cautionary tale from CSS expert Jeremy Keith. http://adactio.com/journal/display.php/20040804214738.xml ;-) Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/