SPAM-LOW: Re: [thelist] Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Common Practice vs Standards

Justin Kozuch @ pxLabs justin at pxlabs.com
Tue Jan 25 18:19:05 CST 2005


Alan,

Oh I agree with you completely. It IS all about the Benjamins.

One particularly odious business practice I see quite often in my 
travels across the Web is companies literally FORCING surfers to use a 
specific browser... Purolator (at one point) was one of them, and you 
could not (to a degree) visit their site unless you using IE 5.5 and 
above, or Netscape 6 and above.

IE 5.5? Are they that far behind? Yowza.

> Most sites are in the business of making money and if the largest 
> percentage of users are hitting the site with IE, then they'll make 
> sure they have no problems at all getting around.

To me, it seems that even if Microsoft gives away a product, they still 
make money, so to speak. To them, a "stable" product means new business 
as well as repeat business. Pretty shady if you ask me, but really, 
who's going to stand up to them? The standardistas (as Joe Clark calls 
them) have tried, albeit somewhat successfully.

Are they listening? Let's hope so when Longhorn gets released. Me, I'm 
not really holding my breath.

-- 
Justin Kozuch
Creative Director, pxLabs
"Helping clients improve their business through the use of Web standards"
http://www.pxlabs.com/



Alan McCoy wrote:

> In a perfect world, that'd be great. I'd be right there with you 
> coding nothin' but standards-compliant XHTML & CSS.
>
> However, the market share of browsers being what it is (IE way in the 
> lead), you won't see an IE shutout happening anytime soon.
>
> Most sites are in the business of making money and if the largest 
> percentage of users are hitting the site with IE, then they'll make 
> sure they have no problems at all getting around.
>
> In short, it's all about the Benjamins.
>
> -- 
> Alan McCoy
> http://www.coingo.net/freeapple - Free Mac Stuff!
>
>
> dwain wrote:
>
>> Alan McCoy wrote:
>>
>>> Justin Kozuch @ pxLabs wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I find ironic is, the same standards they helped develop, they 
>>>> totally ignore them.
>>>>
>>>> Another reason why I use Firefox, and another reason why everyone 
>>>> should ditch IE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Amen! And what's worse, MS doesn't plan on doing anything about IE's 
>>> faults anytime soon. We'll just have to live with it (in other 
>>> words, code around it!)
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Alan McCoy
>>> http://www.coingo.net/freeapple - Free Mac Stuff!
>>>
>> i wonder what would happen if we didn't code for it at all.  are 
>> there more web standard coders than not?  would that not be the way 
>> to force microsoft's hand, maybe, and have them step into line.  is 
>> there a move to ask adobe and macromedia to make their wysiwyg 
>> programs write code that validates and are to w3c standards?  that 
>> would really force microsoft to adjust to the industry instead of the 
>> industry adjusting to microsoft.
>> dwain
>


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