>http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.12.1 I managed to create this: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <head> <title>Untitled Document</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> <style type="text/css"> .disabled{ color:#ccc; } </style> </head> <body> <br> <br> <select name="dogs"> <option value="1">Domestic Dog </option> <option>Arctic Fox </option> <option>Maned Wolf </option> <option>Grey Wolf </option> <option class="disabled" onfocus="blur()">Red Fox </option> <option>Fennec</option> </select> </body> </html> ... but that sparked yet another idea. Drop this altogether for more control in an example like: http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/example/ Very pretty. I can simulate the non IE implemented disabled feature by not adding the link and greying out the text. The only catch is that it's not completely compatible with FF, but there are work arounds. Rob