ff 1.0.6 renders fine. opera 8 renders fine, except the cover image is not showing. didn't noodle around much, but what i did, all seemed to be in order. the site holds together in ff when text is zoomed 2x and starts to get shaky after that. dwain -- Dwain Alford dwain at alforddesigngroup.com http://www.alforddesigngroup.com "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art"