Thanks Felix. I'll check out the sources you sent and see if that helps. I have the same concerns about the font sizes; I have trouble seeing them myself! The client <em>insists<em> that the page be only one screen (no scroll bar to get all info). He also doesn't want to decrease the banner size. I've shown him that given the page dimensions, the page(s) won't view without scrolling on most browsers (it doesn't on mine, for example, but does on his mac running Safari at 1024). I argued that most people are accustomed to scrolling and would rather do that and be able to read the text. He's totally off-base with this IMHO. He is paying the bills, though. Does anyone have any other ideas to counter this kind of client argument. Thanks again for any help. Bill -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Felix Miata Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:55 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Table layout to CSS: Not as easy as I thought! Bill Scheider wrote: > Although I've been using CSS for some time, I'm still new and this is my > first attempt at using style sheets for layout. What an adventure! I'm > converting the site below from tables. The screenshot link shows what it > looks like in Firefox (and what I'm hoping it will look like in most > browsers). > In IE6 (Windows XP, 1024 res), tho', it's broke, broke, broke! The top menu > bar (red) shows in IE but then repeats itself (without the menu items) about > 1/3 down the page. Also, there's a huge white gap between the small product > image at the top of the content div and the data table below it. The firefox > (preferred) version has the data table about 15px below the image. > If anyone on this list would take some time to take a look and teach a > novice a lesson or two, I'd really appreciate it. I wrestled with it laast > night for a number of bleary-eyed hours and can't figure out where to go > from here. > Markup and CSS Validates. > Page can be found here: > http://first-encounter-design.com/syntonic/prod-plo.html > CSS is here: > http://first-encounter-design.com/syntonic/css/mainleft.css > FF screenshot is here (45K): > http://first-encounter-design.com/syntonic/screenshot.jpg Looks to me like something is fixed in px wider than the available space. A run through the links on http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModel will probably turn up an answer. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModel Before you do that, you should switch to fonts everyone can see. http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/defaultsize.html All your content is much smaller than my tiny browser menu text. In IE, where your text can't be resized, I can't see anything except a heading. It takes several zoom levels in FF for me to read it: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/fed.png -- "Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?" Matthew 6:27 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !