On 9/5/05, bruce <bedouglas at earthlink.net> wrote: > i can use divs to set up the header, the 'nav_menu area, as well as the left > area/right area. my question comes when i want to create a 'footer' area > that will more or less move depending on the length of the 'left/right' > areas... Hi Bruce, My first stop when I have a CSS question is the css-discuss Wiki. I'd check out the Footer Info[1] page, as well as the Two[2] and Three[3] Column Layout pages for more ideas. HTH, Jeff [1] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FooterInfo [2] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=TwoColumnLayouts [3] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts -- Jeffery To www.thingsthemselves.com