My suggestion would be to have routines (functions/subs) and classes only in your include files. Then you don't need to worry about not having variables declared, or worse, redeclaring variables, since any variables you have will be scoped to the function/sub only. You could put a call to the routine in your main page (if required). Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Canfield, Joel Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 4:35 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] dim variables in include file (traditional ASP) > since you call includes outside of script blocks, is it possible your > include doesn't have the script blocks in place within the file? d'oh. a lot. > without seeing the structure, hard to debug... yer doin' find, aard; all happy here now (except for the stupid part) is it too early for a drink?