> The new design is at the top of > http://www.4thegrapes.com/design11.htm and > the audience I'm targeting is creative, intelligent, but not > especially web > savy. I'm not gonna get real technical; I'll just say, I like it best. Makes me think of wine *country*, not just wine. The others were all good, and I wouldna disliked any of them, but this one jumped at me. I like it. spinhead