> :) > Please help keep the signal-to-noise ratio high on thelist :) If in doubt, check the guidelines: http://lists.evolt.org/index.php?content=listinfo <tip type="DOM Inspector"> If you haven't checked out the DOM inspector available with Firefox, you really should. It can seem intimidating at first, but once you've explored a little you'll find it to be an invaluable resource in development. For example, it'll let you see which CSS rules are being applied to an element, and in what order. Here's an article with a brief intro: http://www.codestore.net/store.nsf/unid/BLOG-20050228 I've even surprised myself with this one; reading that article, I learned about using it to delete an element from a page and change the class of an element - very useful! </tip> -- sarah adams web developer & programmer portfolio: http://sarah.designshift.com blog: http://hardedge.ca