OK, I know about 3NF, using sub-queries, and how Visual Basic can scan directories. But in MS Access, I cannot recall how to get the standard menu, the form design menu, or any of the others to appear. Would someone please refresh my memory. (Sigh!) Ken _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/