[thelist] FTP user and Joomla

[Dan Parry]

Hi Bob and Renoir

The permissions appear to be fine (0755 for folders, 0644 for files and 0444 for configuration.php). I've uploaded some files using the Media Manager and Extension Manager and they appear to work fine (folders are created, files are written, permissions are correct), but the Update just won't have it

I'm still looking around but haven't found anything yet

Thanks to you both for the information, very helpful. I'm going to check the user Apache is running under per Renior's suggestion as I suspect it's maybe something I've misconfigured there (or something. I think)

Thanks!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Bob Meetin
Sent: 14 August 2013 21:00
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] FTP user and Joomla

If it's permissions, then only the configuration file should be 444, other files 644 and folders 755;  umask in my .bashrc is "umask 022"

typically when I first install joomla, first thing after:

% find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
% find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;

configuration.php gets corrected after. sometimes packages/themes get created with wrong perms.

chmod 777 is bad but not as bad as:

# cd
# \rm -rf *

That story still conjures up chuckles and heckling.



On 08/14/2013 01:03 PM, Renoir B. wrote:
> Hello guys.
>
> I simply think that joomla is complaining on saving the configuration.
> Assuming the CMS is using a config file for that particular issue.
>
> Otherwise, it is possibly a path issue (same folder, different ftp client).
>
> Just make sure of the following, using the terminal insode your server
> docroot:
>
>    1. find . -type d -maxdepth 3 -ls
>    2. ps -aux | grep apache
>
> [1]:  find all directories recursively up to 3 levels and list 
> permissions on them
> [2]:  list who is running Apache http server
>
> I think you might find a permission issue for some files or folders.
>
> Remember that listing requires the 'x' flag for at least the group.
>
> Be sure to never, EVER, allow 'chmod 777' on something to make it work.
>
> Just remember file/folder permission basics.
>
> Look at:
> d ---rwx---  rmuller apache  ..... hai/
>     ---rwx---  rmuller apache ... file.txt
>
> meaning:
> - each '-' represents a right, always in rwx order (read, write, eXecute)
>    - each three placeholder (e.g 'r-x') represent a different type of 
> right realm (user, group membersihp, world).
>
> So 777 would be rwxrwxrwx when you could only make sure that where you 
> want to write, the user has the same either user id, or is member of a 
> compatible group.
>
> Remember that a directory to be listed, the user has to be allowed the 
> X right.
>
> Hope it helped understand file permissions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Renoir Boulanger  |  Developer operations engineer W3C  |  Web 
> Platform Project
>
> https://renoirboulanger.com/  ✪  @renoirb ~ On Aug 14, 2013 2:34 PM, 
> "Nan Harbison" <nan at nanharbison.com> wrote:
>
>> I may be missing something huge here, and I only have experience with 
>> Drupal, but why do ftp users have to be somehow entered into Joomla? 
>> In Drupal, to add files, users just upload files in your account 
>> using IMCE or another file upload module. I do have to install the 
>> module, I assume that is true of Joomla too.
>> Nan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org 
>> [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Dan Parry
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:22 PM
>> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>> Subject: [thelist] FTP user and Joomla
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm having a bit of an issue with a server I set up. Firstly, I'm not 
>> that familiar with server admin but here I am. The problem I'm having 
>> is that the FTP user is set up and works fine from desktop FTP 
>> clients, but as soon as I put the exact same details into Joomla it 
>> chokes. Joomla remains unable to write to files without at least 666 
>> permissions.
>>
>> I'm really not sure where to start here as the FTP details definitely 
>> work and the FTP layer works on the server I use. Could someone 
>> please help point me in the right direction? I have full SSH access 
>> so no problems there.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>> Dan
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