From rwd@csi1st.net Tue Oct 1 19:58:01 2002 From: rwd@csi1st.net (Ron Dorman) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:58:01 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] Evolt.org Affiliate Program Site Message-ID: <3D99F039.5050606@csi1st.net> Hello Everyone, We have completed updates to the web site providing the Affiliate Hosting Program for evolt.org (we have also completed several updates to the servers). You may visit http://ez-profits.com/?page=shop/eoaffiliate to go directly to page deining the affiliate program or http://ez-profits.com to go the main page of the site. Credit Card processing and automatic site creation are turned off so no charges will occur and no sites will be setup on the servers. We will leave the site up for review and feedback until 5:00 pm EDT, Thursday, Oct. 3. We will then perform our controlled tests with everything turned on and doing live processing. If no major problems arise during review and final testing, it will be live and accepting sites Monday, Oct. 7 at 8:00 am EDT. The site has a totaly different look but the domain name and URL are the same due to issues in changing the security certificate. Thanks, Ron D. From lists@mantruc.com Mon Oct 7 14:45:37 2002 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:45:37 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy Message-ID: <3DA19001.FBB35C05@mantruc.com> hey mkt: we have to make a clear decision regarding the acceptance/rejection of corporate sponsorship in the community. from what we could discuss last week we can have 3 options: a.- accept no sponsorship at all, rely only on personal donations b.- accept corporate donations, and use a 'wall of sponsors' to recognize them c.- sell some kind of banners we can addd other ideas to the list as well. i, for one, am strongly agaist option 'c', would ecnourage to keep on working under option 'a', but believe that option 'b' would be acceptable, if properly managed. please speak up your opinion so we can get to a final decision and state it clearly so we don't have to go through this discussion again. thanks javier From genghis@members.evolt.org Mon Oct 7 14:56:37 2002 From: genghis@members.evolt.org (John Handelaar) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:56:37 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy In-Reply-To: <3DA19001.FBB35C05@mantruc.com> Message-ID: % -----Original Message----- % From: marketing-admin@lists.evolt.org % [mailto:marketing-admin@lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of javier velasco % Sent: 07 October 2002 14:46 % To: marketing@lists.evolt.org % Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy % % please speak up your opinion so we can get to a final decision and state % it clearly so we don't have to go through this discussion again. Moderately hilarious levels of optimism there :-) My opinion: there aren't many personal donations, and pretending that there are isn't making us any less poor. (Also: We spend completely beyond our means, and that must stop asafp, but that's a seperate issue) ------------------------------------------ John Handelaar T +44 20 8933 1494 M +44 7930 681789 F +44 870 169 7657 E john@userfrenzy.com ------------------------------------------ From martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com Mon Oct 7 17:29:23 2002 From: martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com (martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:29:23 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy Message-ID: Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy >we have to make a clear decision regarding the acceptance/rejection of >corporate sponsorship in the community. As this is a larger policy decision, I'm not sure Marketing can make it (or, to put it another way, if I were a non-member of marketing, I'd be seriously pissed off if Marketing decided on my behalf). However, we *do* have a valid opinion on which would be effective. >from what we could discuss last week we can have 3 options: >a.- accept no sponsorship at all, rely only on personal donations I'm with John on this - we don't have personal donations worth talking about. Can someone who's also on the development list enquire why the monthly total-ometer isn't up and running? >b.- accept corporate donations, and use a 'wall of sponsors' to >recognize them Could work, but would be a lot of work selling enough. Would need to be a regular payment, and be locked in for a period of time. >c.- sell some kind of banners If it were a single sponsor, locked into a long-term relationship, this could also work. BTW, I think Glasshaus might be appropriate... Cheers Martin (soon to be losing this email address - it'll be martin.p.burns@uk.ibm.com soon-ish) --------------------- End of message text -------------------- PLEASE NOTE THAT IBM recently completed its acquisition of PricewaterhouseCoopers' global management consulting and information technology services business, PwC Consulting. As a result, PwC Consulting is no longer a part of the PricewaterhouseCoopers network of firms, and is now a part of the IBM Global Services business unit. Accordingly, all references to PwC Consulting or PwCC in this document should be deemed to be references to IBM Global Services. IBM (including IBM Global Services) and PricewaterhouseCoopers are not the same organisation, and neither governs or is affiliated with the other, or any affiliate, subsidiary or division of the other. The sender is neither a partner in, nor employee of PricewaterhouseCoopers and is now an employee of, and acting for, IBM. _________________________________________________________________ From lists@mantruc.com Mon Oct 7 18:01:25 2002 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 13:01:25 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy References: Message-ID: <3DA1BDE5.51D2185D@mantruc.com> martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com wrote: > > Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy > > >we have to make a clear decision regarding the acceptance/rejection of > >corporate sponsorship in the community. > > As this is a larger policy decision, I'm not sure Marketing can make it > (or, to put it another way, if I were a non-member of marketing, I'd be > seriously pissed off if Marketing decided on my behalf). i'm seriously starting to doubt the usefulness of splitting into the work groups, it was a good idea when we had lots of active admins, but now that we have much less momentum, i believe uniting them back a gain could be better. > However, we *do* have a valid opinion on which would be effective. > > >from what we could discuss last week we can have 3 options: > > >a.- accept no sponsorship at all, rely only on personal donations > > I'm with John on this - we don't have personal donations worth talking > about. Can someone who's also on the development list enquire why the > monthly total-ometer isn't up and running? yes, we still don't have clear info about how much we need, or how much we have recieved. From isaac@members.evolt.org Tue Oct 8 02:47:00 2002 From: isaac@members.evolt.org (isaac) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:17:00 +0930 Subject: [Marketing] sponsorship policy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm with John on this - we don't have personal donations worth talking > about. Can someone who's also on the development list enquire why the > monthly total-ometer isn't up and running? re personal donations -- i agree. i put in whatever i had in my paypal account, but i think a better thing is going to be donation drives, or something regularly deducted such as MEO payment/subscription as i've mentioned before. > If it were a single sponsor, locked into a long-term relationship, this > could also work. BTW, I think Glasshaus might be appropriate... some sense of exclusive sponsors (with no influence other than that there banner sites on our frontdoor) could work. if glasshaus were interested, then we could chase that up. that said, a few of us (myself included) do have an interest (hello royalties) in glasshaus selling more books. an agreement with glasshaus, for example, should not stop us writing reviews of competitors products, or reviewing their products more favourably. it's something that i think everyone would agree with, but should fall under a sponsorship policy regardless. i've suggested before (and will do again), that if we consider the long-term sponsorship opp, we should look for deals with sponsors in a few primary categories: publisher (glasshaus?), hosting company, software company (macromedia?), training provider? isaac From lists@mantruc.com Thu Oct 10 14:34:20 2002 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] donation campaign? Message-ID: <3DA581DC.2ADA25F2@mantruc.com> i just saw the donation drive bar working on the test site (linked to from google), are the values updated? what would we need to put it live? do we want to? cheers javier From martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com Thu Oct 10 14:50:23 2002 From: martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com (martin.p.burns@uk.pwcglobal.com) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:50:23 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] donation campaign? Message-ID: Well target 1's fading into the past as it's already been covered. We need: 1) The capability to update it 2) Agreement on how much beo mirrors are worth per Gig, plus how we're going to explain those months where we don't get the money yet stay on the air 3) An explanatory article (which should include some stuff about "Donations - better than banner ads") 4) An email ready to go out to all the lists touting for donations. If we have all of those, then we should put it live, imo. Cheers Martin Please respond to marketing@lists.evolt.org Sent by: marketing-admin@lists.evolt.org To: marketing@lists.evolt.org cc: Subject: [Marketing] donation campaign? i just saw the donation drive bar working on the test site (linked to from google), are the values updated? what would we need to put it live? do we want to? cheers javier --- evolt.org Marketing list marketing@lists.evolt.org Archive: http://lists.evolt.org/marketingarchive/ --------------------- End of message text -------------------- PLEASE NOTE THAT IBM recently completed its acquisition of PricewaterhouseCoopers' global management consulting and information technology services business, PwC Consulting. As a result, PwC Consulting is no longer a part of the PricewaterhouseCoopers network of firms, and is now a part of the IBM Global Services business unit. Accordingly, all references to PwC Consulting or PwCC in this document should be deemed to be references to IBM Global Services. IBM (including IBM Global Services) and PricewaterhouseCoopers are not the same organisation, and neither governs or is affiliated with the other, or any affiliate, subsidiary or division of the other. The sender is neither a partner in, nor employee of PricewaterhouseCoopers and is now an employee of, and acting for, IBM. _________________________________________________________________ From martin.p.burns@uk.ibm.com Fri Oct 11 18:25:16 2002 From: martin.p.burns@uk.ibm.com (Martin Paul Burns) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:25:16 +0100 Subject: [Marketing] New email address - sorry offtopic Message-ID: Dear all Sorry for the off-topic email, but I thought I'd let you know that a) I've got a new work email address b) At the end of the month, the old one will start bouncing I've subbed to all the lists I was subbed to with the old email address, but if you're emailing me offlist, this is the place it needs to go to. Oh, and no nasty disclaimer footer either, which is nice. Cheers Martin ___ Martin Burns IBM Business Consulting Services Tel: +44 0774 063 9985 From rwd@csi1st.net Tue Oct 15 01:52:06 2002 From: rwd@csi1st.net (Ron Dorman) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:52:06 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] Affiliate Program Ready Message-ID: <3DAB66B6.80009@csi1st.net> Greetings All, The web site supporting the evolt.org Affiliate Hosting Program from NetWorth Enterprises, Inc. and CSI, Inc. has been live since last Monday and we have had 8 sites added to the servers via the new web site. Unfortunately, none of them were evolt.org members. Can we get it listed on Marlene's "Support evolt.org" article on the site (maybe start an affiliate program section so others can be added as available) and post an announcement to thelist and see if we can get some funds generated for evolt.org? The look, colors and branding have changed but the URL's are the same due to the security certificate involved. http://ez-profits.com/ for the site main page. http://ez-profits.com/?page=shop/eoaffiliate for the Affiliate Hosting Program explaination. This is only a start, but can be a great funding resource for evolt.org so we want to meet the needs of the people that use the service. Reports of any problems will be handled immediately and suggestions for enhancements will be evaluated and implemented as soon as possible. Thanks, Ron D. From marlene@digitizethis.com Tue Oct 22 05:41:24 2002 From: marlene@digitizethis.com (Marlene Bruce) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Marketing] a stab at affiliate program text Message-ID: Hey Folks, Ron wants us to write a blurb to send out to thelist and the like, announcing the affiliate program and how it benefits evolt.org. Here's Ron's original gist: >Simple, to the point. Something like "We a have a new supporter for >evolt.org operational expenses. NetWorth Enterprises, Inc is offering >an affiliate hosting program where evolt.org will recieve 10% of the >monthly hosting fees paid by evolt.org members hosting web sites with >their hosting service. Check it out at ez-profits.com > " Here are my attempts to start reshaping it: "Are you looking for hosting space? If so,... "In order to help sustain the services evolt.org provides you, our members and visitors, we have agreed to... "We are pleased to announce... ... How about this: "A new supporter has stepped forward to help keep evolt.org alive. To assist us in defraying our operating costs, NetWorth Enterprises, Inc. is offering an affiliate hosting program to evolt.org members. For every member who chooses to host one or more web sites with NetWorth's hosting service, evolt.org will receive 10% of the monthly hosting fee. If you're looking for a hosting company, please consider NetWorth's hosting service, ez-profits.com (regrettable name, we know)." Argh! I'm trying to come up with something, but I'm hitting a roadblock. I guess I'm having a hard time writing something that doesn't sound like a sales job or spam. This kind of thing isn't really my forte. I don't know how to come at it with the appropriate non-profit edge. Can someone help? With much appreciation for anything, Marlene From lists@mantruc.com Tue Oct 22 13:39:23 2002 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:39:23 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] a stab at affiliate program text References: Message-ID: <3DB546FB.EC9AA9BA@mantruc.com> Marlene Bruce wrote: > How about this: > > "A new supporter has stepped forward to help keep evolt.org alive. To > assist us in defraying our operating costs, NetWorth Enterprises, > Inc. is offering an affiliate hosting program to evolt.org members. > For every member who chooses to host one or more web sites with > NetWorth's hosting service, evolt.org will receive 10% of the monthly > hosting fee. If you're looking for a hosting company, please consider > NetWorth's hosting service, ez-profits.com (regrettable name, we > know)." > > Argh! I'm trying to come up with something, but I'm hitting a > roadblock. I guess I'm having a hard time writing something that > doesn't sound like a sales job or spam. This kind of thing isn't > really my forte. I don't know how to come at it with the appropriate > non-profit edge. Can someone help? hey marlene: i think your edit is very good. i don't think it sounds to 'profit-ese'. we ARE talking about money after all, and it explains the plan in a clear way: how it operates, and how will evolt.org benefit from these contributions. imo it's great :) thanks cheers javier From marlene@members.evolt.org Wed Oct 23 16:34:41 2002 From: marlene@members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:34:41 -0700 Subject: [Marketing] a stab at affiliate program text In-Reply-To: <3DB546FB.EC9AA9BA@mantruc.com> References: <3DB546FB.EC9AA9BA@mantruc.com> Message-ID: >i think your edit is very good. i don't think it sounds to 'profit-ese'. >we ARE talking about money after all, and it explains the plan in a >clear way: how it operates, and how will evolt.org benefit from these >contributions. imo it's great :) thanks Okay, fab. I'll forward it to theforum and ask what we do with it... Cheers, Marlene P.S. I liked the clock...