From dmah@members.evolt.org Mon Mar 3 15:26:51 2003 From: dmah@members.evolt.org (Dean Mah) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:26:51 -0700 Subject: [Marketing] m.e.o closure message Message-ID: <20030303152651.GB2000@alice.cg.shawcable.net> Hi, Can someone draw up a message to the m.e.o membership that the service will be closing and that they need to grab whatever data they require off of the server? Dean From lists@mantruc.com Mon Mar 3 16:01:03 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:01:03 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] m.e.o closure message References: <20030303152651.GB2000@alice.cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <3E637C3F.976E95A9@mantruc.com> Dean Mah wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone draw up a message to the m.e.o membership that the service > will be closing and that they need to grab whatever data they require > off of the server? i got it... so it will be a permanent closing within 4 days? From martin@easyweb.co.uk Mon Mar 3 16:12:47 2003 From: martin@easyweb.co.uk (Martin Burns) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:12:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Marketing] m.e.o closure message In-Reply-To: <3E637C3F.976E95A9@mantruc.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, javier velasco wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can someone draw up a message to the m.e.o membership that the service > > will be closing and that they need to grab whatever data they require > > off of the server? > > i got it... > > so it will be a permanent closing within 4 days? Yes, to be replaced with evolters.org. We'll need to take David up on his kind redirection offer as soon as possible and put in something about how members can enable that (probably email David with the details, or fill in a web form or something) Cheers martin > > --- > evolt.org Marketing list > marketing@lists.evolt.org > Archive: http://lists.evolt.org/marketingarchive/ > -- "Names, once they are in common use, quickly become mere sounds, their etymology being buried, like so many of the earth's marvels, beneath the dust of habit." - Salman Rushdie From lists@mantruc.com Mon Mar 3 17:52:00 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:52:00 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] m.e.o closure message (first draft) References: Message-ID: <3E639640.CD6AA585@mantruc.com> This is my first attempt, awaiting comments: -- Dear members.evolt.org users: We’re sorry to announce you that our m.e.o. service will be shut down in 4 more days (march 7th). We are working on an alternative service with more features for you, but in the short term, we need you to back up any valuable data that you may have in your m.e.o. space as soon as possible. Sorry for such a short notice, this has been rushed beyond our control. From lists@mantruc.com Tue Mar 4 18:10:51 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:10:51 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] closing meo announcement - second draft Message-ID: <3E64EC28.C6640FCE@mantruc.com> Please give me some comments or send quick -- Dear members.evolt.org users: We’re sorry to announce you that our m.e.o. service will be shut down by march 15th. We are working on an alternative service with more features for you, but in the short term, we need you to back up any valuable data that you may have in your m.e.o. space as soon as possible. Sorry for such a short notice, this has been rushed beyond our control. From martin@easyweb.co.uk Tue Mar 4 18:16:39 2003 From: martin@easyweb.co.uk (Martin Burns) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:16:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Marketing] Re: [steering] closing meo announcement - second draft In-Reply-To: <3E64EC28.C6640FCE@mantruc.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, javier velasco wrote: One amend: ~~~~~~~~~~ We are working on an alternative service with more features for you, but in the short term, we need you to back up any valuable data that you may have in your m.e.o. space as soon as possible. We expect to be able to forward your email to another specified address and will send details of this as soon as it's available. ~~~~~~~~~~ Get it out ASAP and follow up with the forwarding details Cheers martin > -- "Names, once they are in common use, quickly become mere sounds, their etymology being buried, like so many of the earth's marvels, beneath the dust of habit." - Salman Rushdie From lists@mantruc.com Tue Mar 4 18:44:06 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:44:06 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] [steering] closing meo announcement - third draft References: <3E64EC28.C6640FCE@mantruc.com> <20030304182339.GA3344@alice.cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <3E64F3F6.916F6C49@mantruc.com> Thanks Martin and Dean for the comments. Let me know if it's better now. How can I send it? -- Dear members.evolt.org users: We’re sorry to announce you that our m.e.o. service will be shut down by march 15th. Within some time you will be able to redirect your pages to another server, but in the meantime you should take the appropriate actions, e.g., backup any data that you want saved, dump your MySQL database. We expect to be able to forward your email to another specified address and will send details of this as soon as it's available. But you should also alert people that your m.e.o e-mail address may become unavailable. We apologize for coming to you in such a short notice, this has been equally quick for us. From elfur@elfur.is Tue Mar 4 19:03:58 2003 From: elfur@elfur.is (Elfur Logadottir) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:03:58 -0000 Subject: [Marketing] [steering] closing meo announcement - third draft References: <3E64EC28.C6640FCE@mantruc.com> <20030304182339.GA3344@alice.cg.shawcable.net> <3E64F3F6.916F6C49@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <067a01c2e280$cfeb97d0$0100a8c0@DWARFS> From: "javier velasco" | How can I send it? by sending mail to members@lists.evolt.org elfur From genghis@members.evolt.org Tue Mar 4 19:37:09 2003 From: genghis@members.evolt.org (John Handelaar) Date: 04 Mar 2003 19:37:09 +0000 Subject: [Marketing] [steering] closing meo announcement - third draft In-Reply-To: <3E64F3F6.916F6C49@mantruc.com> References: <3E64EC28.C6640FCE@mantruc.com> <20030304182339.GA3344@alice.cg.shawcable.net> <3E64F3F6.916F6C49@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <1046806628.2252.11.camel@fidel> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 18:44, javier velasco wrote: > Thanks Martin and Dean for the comments. > > Let me know if it's better now. > > How can I send it? Copy correction for English usage... Dear members.evolt.org users: We're sorry to have to announce that members.evolt.org (MEO) service will be closed indefinitely from March 15th 2003 onwards. We expect that we'll be able to forward your URL to a new location of your choosing soon, but in the meantime we *strongly* advise you to make backups of: * Your pages and code * If applicable, your MySQL database (use the 'dump database' feature of phpmyAdmin). We also expect to be able to forward your email to another address, and will send details of this as soon as it's available. But you should also alert people that your MEO e-mail address may become unavailable, and change any mailing list subscriptions you may have accordingly. Finally, we apologize for not having been able to give a lot more notice of this change to your service. Evolt.org had very little warning about the change. Sorry for the inconvenience. ============================================= k? -- ------------------------------------------ John Handelaar T +44 20 8459 4923 M +44 7930 681789 F +44 870 169 7657 E john@userfrenzy.com ------------------------------------------ From lists@mantruc.com Tue Mar 4 19:58:50 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:58:50 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] [steering] closing meo announcement - third draft References: <3E64EC28.C6640FCE@mantruc.com> <20030304182339.GA3344@alice.cg.shawcable.net> <3E64F3F6.916F6C49@mantruc.com> <1046806628.2252.11.camel@fidel> Message-ID: <3E65057A.B47F13C9@mantruc.com> John Handelaar wrote: > Copy correction for English usage... > > (snip) > > k? great! thanks john. i'll send it soon From lists@mantruc.com Tue Mar 4 20:11:28 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:11:28 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] It bounced! References: <200303042011.h24KBwh08084@baker.copesa.cl> Message-ID: <3E650870.1AF11BE4@mantruc.com> I knew it could not be so easy :-\ Now what? Does one need to have special access in order to send? Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > The original message was received at Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:11:57 -0300 > from firewall.copesa.cl [200.28.55.2] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > .... while talking to leo.evolt.org.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Reporting-MTA: dns; baker.copesa.cl > Received-From-MTA: DNS; firewall.copesa.cl > Arrival-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:11:57 -0300 > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; members@lists.evolt.org > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; leo.evolt.org > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:11:58 -0300 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: members.evolt.org will be closed soon! > Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:05:02 -0300 > From: javier velasco > To: members@lists.evolt.org > > Dear members.evolt.org users: > > We're sorry to have to announce that members.evolt.org (MEO) service > will be > closed indefinitely from March 15th 2003 onwards. > > We expect that we'll be able to forward your URL to a new location of > your > choosing soon, but in the meantime we *strongly* advise you to make > backups of: > > * Your pages and code > * If applicable, your MySQL database (use the 'dump database' feature > of phpmyAdmin). > > We also expect to be able to forward your email to another address, and > will send details of this as soon as it's available. But you should also > alert > people that your MEO e-mail address may become unavailable, and change > any > mailing list subscriptions you may have accordingly. > > Finally, we apologize for not having been able to give a lot more notice > of > this change to your service. evolt.org had very little warning about > the change. Sorry for the inconvenience. > > Thank you for your support. > > Javier Velasco - on behalf of evolt.org From lists@mantruc.com Tue Mar 4 20:50:38 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:50:38 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] Re: [steering] It bounced! References: <200303042011.h24KBwh08084@baker.copesa.cl> <3E650870.1AF11BE4@mantruc.com> <20030304201620.GA3960@alice.cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <3E65119E.B8E93318@mantruc.com> Awaiting moderator's approval, then I'll wait for a pile of hate mails :) Dean Mah wrote: > themembers@lists.evolt.org is the list to use. Your mail to 'Themembers' with the subject members.evolt.org will be closed soon! Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post to moderated list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. From luminosity@members.evolt.org Thu Mar 6 09:21:47 2003 From: luminosity@members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:21:47 +1100 Subject: [Marketing] m.e.o closure message (first draft) In-Reply-To: <3E639640.CD6AA585@mantruc.com> References: <3E639640.CD6AA585@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <3E67132B.7020008@members.evolt.org> javier velasco wrote: > This is my first attempt, awaiting comments: > > -- > > Dear members.evolt.org users: > > We’re sorry to announce [to] you that our m.e.o. service will be shut down in 4 > more days (march 7th). We are working on an alternative service with more > features for you, but in the short term, we need you to back up any valuable > data that you may have in your m.e.o. space as soon as possible. > > Sorry for such a short notice, this has been rushed beyond our control. looks okay apart from my fix. -- Lach __________________________________________ Web: http://illuminosity.net/ E-mail: lach @ illuminosity.net MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org __________________________________________ From lists@mantruc.com Thu Mar 6 17:46:04 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:46:04 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] new meo announcement - first draft Message-ID: <3E67895C.A7C92FE@mantruc.com> Subject: Good news, an alternative to m.e.o. Dear m.e.o. users: We’re relieved to announce you that our friend Dan Cody, has graciously offered free f2o accounts to all m.e.o. uses who need the service. If you don’t know what I’m talking about Dan is one of the evolt.org founding members, who is now in charge of f2o (freedom to operate), providing development hosting services for a small fee. All you have to do is head to f2o (http://f2o.org/) and give your m.e.o. username in the comments field of the registry form. evolt.org and f2o will then move your files. -- I don’t know what to say about the web and mail forwarding, thoughts? From lists@mantruc.com Thu Mar 6 18:54:17 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:54:17 -0300 Subject: [Marketing] new meo announcement - second draft Message-ID: <3E679959.A76B23F8@mantruc.com> second draft, edited according to Dan's comments --- Subject: Good news, an alternative to m.e.o. Dear m.e.o. users: We’re relieved to announce you that our friend Dan Cody, has graciously offered m.e.o. users the chance to opt for a free account at f2o.org. You will still have to pass through their application process – although with some extra benevolence. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, Dan is one of the evolt.org founding members, who is now in charge of f2o.org (freedom 2 operate), providing development hosting services (sandbox). All you have to do is head to f2o.org (http://f2o.org/) and give your m.e.o. username in the comments field of the registry form. If your applicatoin is accepted, evolt.org and f2o.org will then move your files. -- I don’t know what to say about the web and mail forwarding, thoughts? -- From dmah@leo.evolt.org Sun Mar 9 20:07:39 2003 From: dmah@leo.evolt.org (Dean Mah) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:07:39 -0600 Subject: [Marketing] Lists Downtime Message-ID: <200303092007.h29K7dX9003762@leo.evolt.org> Hello, We will be moving the hosting of all evolt.org lists at 0000GMT to about 0400GMT. Depending on how quickly your DNS updates, you may not be able to send e-mail to the lists. This interruption should not last more than 4 hours. Dean - on behalf of evolt.org - From lists@mantruc.com Mon Mar 10 16:22:45 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:22:45 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] new meo announcement - third draft References: <3E679959.A76B23F8@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <3E6CBBD5.6F23C8CA@mantruc.com> comments awaited! -- Subject: Good news, an alternative to m.e.o. Dear m.e.o. users: We’re relieved to announce you that our friend Dan Cody, has graciously offered m.e.o. users the chance to opt for a free account at f2o.org. You will still have to pass through their application process – although with some extra benevolence. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, Dan is one of the evolt.org founding members, who is now in charge of f2o.org (freedom 2 operate), providing development hosting services (sandbox). All you have to do is head to f2o.org (http://f2o.org/) and give your m.e.o. username in the comments field of the registry form. If your applicatoin is accepted, evolt.org and f2o.org will then move your files. We will also be handling HTTP redirects and e-mail forwarding for the next 4 months (we will let you know if we can extend that further.). We need you to send us your current m.e.o. username and the desired destination for your redirects and forwarding. Send your info to “sysadmin@lists.evolt.org” Thanks again for your comprehension. From elfur@elfur.is Mon Mar 10 16:35:24 2003 From: elfur@elfur.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Elfur_Logad=F3ttir?=) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:35:24 -0000 Subject: [Marketing] new meo announcement - third draft In-Reply-To: <3E6CBBD5.6F23C8CA@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <001101c2e723$0cffaf70$e90214ac@hir.is> applicatoin to application is all i have to comment on. somewhat thinking of the word comprehension at the end. maybe better to use cooperation or something like that. later elfur .| -----Original Message----- .| From: marketing-admin@lists.evolt.org .| [mailto:marketing-admin@lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of javier velasco .| Sent: 10. mars 2003 16:23 .| To: marketing@lists.evolt.org; 1- SC .| Subject: [Marketing] new meo announcement - third draft .| .| .| comments awaited! .| -- .| .| .| Subject: Good news, an alternative to m.e.o. .| .| Dear m.e.o. users: .| .| We’re relieved to announce you that our friend Dan Cody, has .| graciously offered m.e.o. users the chance to opt for a free .| account at f2o.org. You will still have to pass through .| their application process – although with some extra benevolence. .| .| If you don’t know what I’m talking about, Dan is one of the .| evolt.org founding members, who is now in charge of f2o.org .| (freedom 2 operate), providing development hosting services .| (sandbox). .| .| All you have to do is head to f2o.org (http://f2o.org/) and .| give your m.e.o. username in the comments field of the .| registry form. If your applicatoin is accepted, evolt.org .| and f2o.org will then move your files. .| .| We will also be handling HTTP redirects and e-mail .| forwarding for the next 4 months (we will let you know if we .| can extend that further.). We need you to send us your .| current m.e.o. username and the desired destination for your .| redirects and forwarding. Send your info to .| “sysadmin@lists.evolt.org” .| .| Thanks again for your comprehension. .| .| .| --- .| evolt.org Marketing list .| marketing@lists.evolt.org .| Archive: http://lists.evolt.org/marketingarchive/ .| From lists@mantruc.com Mon Mar 10 19:27:08 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:27:08 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] new meo announcement - fourth draft References: <001101c2e723$0cffaf70$e90214ac@hir.is> Message-ID: <3E6CE70C.D5D4478D@mantruc.com> Corrected acoording to elfur's sharp eye, and added a smal intro for the people who didn't get the first note. -- Subject: Good news, an alternative to m.e.o. Dear m.e.o. users: Some time ago, we gave you the alarm that our members.evolt.org service was closing down by the end of this week. Now we’re relieved to announce you that our friend Dan Cody, has graciously offered m.e.o. users the chance to opt for a free account at f2o.org. You will still have to pass through their application process – although with some extra benevolence. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, Dan is one of the evolt.org founding members, who is now in charge of f2o.org (freedom 2 operate), providing development hosting services (sandbox). All you have to do is head to f2o.org (http://f2o.org/) and give your m.e.o. username in the comments field of the registry form. If your application is accepted, evolt.org and f2o.org will then move your files. We will also be handling HTTP redirects and e-mail forwarding for the next 4 months (we will let you know if we can extend that further.). We need you to send us your current m.e.o. username and the desired destination for your redirects and forwarding. Send your info to “sysadmin@lists.evolt.org” Thanks again for your cooperation. From dmah@leo.evolt.org Mon Mar 10 20:22:51 2003 From: dmah@leo.evolt.org (Dean Mah) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:22:51 -0600 Subject: [Marketing] More l.e.o Downtime Message-ID: <200303102022.h2AKMp33024662@leo.evolt.org> Hello, We will be moving the hosting of all evolt.org lists at 0000GMT to about 0400GMT. Depending on how quickly your DNS updates, you may not be able to send e-mail to the lists. This interruption should not last more than 4 hours. If this message looks familiar, it is. We didn't get the lists moved last night due to some upgrade problems. We've got most of those issues sorted (some configuration might not have carried forward) and it should go smoother tonight. Dean - on behalf of evolt.org - From lists@mantruc.com Mon Mar 10 20:06:42 2003 From: lists@mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:06:42 -0400 Subject: [Marketing] Good news, an alternative to m.e.o. Message-ID: <3E6CF051.67D361CB@mantruc.com> Dear m.e.o. users: Some time ago, we gave you the alarm that our members.evolt.org service was closing down by the end of this week. Now we’re relieved to announce you that our friend Dan Cody, has graciously offered m.e.o. users the chance to opt for a free account at f2o.org. You will still have to pass through their application process – although with some extra benevolence. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, Dan is one of the evolt.org founding members, who is now in charge of f2o.org (freedom 2 operate), providing development hosting services (sandbox). All you have to do is head to f2o.org (http://f2o.org/) and give your m.e.o. username in the comments field of the registry form. If your application is accepted, evolt.org and f2o.org will then move your files. We will also be handling HTTP redirects and e-mail forwarding for the next 4 months (we will let you know if we can extend that further.). We need you to send us your current m.e.o. username and the desired destination for your redirects and forwarding. Send your info to “sysadmin@lists.evolt.org” Thanks again for your cooperation. Javier Velasco - on behalf of evolt.org -