[DesDev] Design to template

[Elfur Logadottir]

From: "Isaac Forman"

| > hmmm. weren't most of us thinking about a better solution for
| > the login part? and the connection between black and sub header?
|
| Login part was modified:
| http://www.triplezero.com.au/production/evolt/evolt_article.gif

i must admit, it had more character when the line was broken on the right
because of the bigger search possibilities. there was something in that,
maybe this is to "clean"

| Also, I think that the blue Cube and Work title in the black bar is
| soundly reflected in the blue cube, blue bar and Work title in the
| sub-header.

i know they are all there, it's the relative position and focus that is
bugging a few of us.

| I have tried a tab, and it ruins the black bar. I refuse to use a line
| down from the cube as someone (sorry, can't remember who) has suggested
| in the past.

agreed. although there was something in that line, it doesn't "mesh" with
the design at all.

| Your suggestion
| (http://nemendur.ru.is/elfur01/temp/evolt_article2-elfur.gif) that helps
| you associate the blue cube to the subheader is, IMO, too stark.

you know, at least a few of us have made the comment that the only part of
the design we had problems with was this three part header conjunction.
several suggestions have been made but none of them have invoked a possibly
different solution of that header on your part (i'm not even going close to
saying that any of the suggestions are any good, that's not the point i'm
making).
i appreciate that you're frustrated by the comments and lame suggestions,
and i'm not going to argue with you, but i guess i'm asking if you could
present a different solution of some sort - even if that one would be less
favoured by you - that way we have the possibility to agree with you ;).
i'm not fond of my suggestion as a solution either, it was a quick mock and
i'm not asking that you make a solution based on that, at all!

| I'm not
| sure how the extra white helps you associate the header and subheader.

it's not about the extra white, it's about the removal of taupe (that's the
name of the color, right :)

| My thinking is that the taupe under the login/search block pulls it back
| somewhat. The white-bg'ed article area gains the contrast (and thus
| focus)

it has the opposite effect on me. with this color the surrounding of the
article area is competing for attension, there's too much going on and the
blue bar is lost in all the action. by removing the extra color, it felt
more relaxed. fewer points asking for imminent focus - but my suggestion
was just that, a suggestion not a solution.

| and that [the contrast/focus of arcticle area] is the important point.

i agree with you there. for me that happens by removing the extra color,
although i do admit - you could probably find a much better solution of
changing/removing the tension than i did.

| People who are using evolt.org
| will know where the login/search are; people arriving from Google (for
| e.g.) are there primarily for the article itself. Any option of joining
| or undertaking further searches are a secondary function.

again, this is my reasoning as well. we are indeed agreeing on the
principal while disagreeing on the execution.

| I think that your trouble of associating the header cubes with the
| subheader block comes from not being able to navigate through a real
| site styled like this.

no, actually i'm some what good at visualizing surroundings when given a
rough idea, so that's not it. my problem is with the subheader itself, that
it isn't getting calm enough surroundings to get appropriate focus

thanks
elfur