[Finance] RE: [Content] Re: Letter from the Better Business Bureau

[Jeff Howden]

marlene,

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> From: Marlene Bruce
>
> > in case no one knows, the better business bureau has
> > no teeth when it comes to handling matters involving
> > non-members.  since we're not members of the bbb,
> > there's absolutely nothing they can do to us for not
> > complying with their request.
>
> True, so regardless of whether it's a legitimate
> complaint or not, we'll just tell 'em to go screw
> themselves, right Jeff? That's the spirit!
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easy with the venom, girl.  we have a history with the character that filed
the complaint.  i'm not the only one to point out the flaws in their
requests.  so, please don't shoot the messenger.

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> > fwiw, i'd double-check all the details of the letter.
> > it's highly likely the mental midgets that have been
> > sending the email complaints have attempted to con
> > you into thinking you've received a letter from the
> > bbb.
>
> I just called the BBB (at a phone number on the bbb.org
> site) and they verified the complaint is legitimate.
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well, that's good to hear.  however, that doesn't mean that complaint
actually holds any substance.  if it's anything like the ones we've received
in the past, it's probably still highly dubious.  but kudos to the secretary
at the bbb that's doing her job enthusiastically.

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> Why don't we just X out the person's email address, as
> requested? It only appears on these two pages:
>
> http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20010423/030835.html
> http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20010423/030908.html
>
> Is that so hard? Just because we're not a memeber of the
> BBB doesn't mean we can't be nice people.
>
> Not to mention that we say on this page:
> http://lists.evolt.org/index.php?content=listinfo
> "Individuals who post to the list hold the copyright to
> their own posts."
>
> That means they also have the right to ask that their
> posts be taken down, and it seems to me we owe them the
> courtesy of doing so (as much as it might be a headache
> for us).
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the only problem with all of this is that it's not the individual that owns
the copyright to those posts that's making the demands.  in fact, it's not
even a representative of that individual.  rather, it seems it's someone
with a possible hostile relationship to that individual who is making the
demands.

several of us here on content have posted at great length about all the
things we see that make us think that this request is bogus.

http://lists.evolt.org/contentarchive/2003-October/010550.html
http://lists.evolt.org/contentarchive/2003-October/010551.html
http://lists.evolt.org/contentarchive/2003-October/010552.html

http://lists.evolt.org/contentarchive/2003-October/010555.html
http://lists.evolt.org/contentarchive/2003-October/010556.html

also, i just found some posts to thelist that would indicate the individual
making the demands has taken to spam bombing us.

http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040105/153535.html
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040105/153536.html
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040105/153537.html
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040105/153538.html

http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040119/154229.html
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040119/154230.html
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040119/154231.html
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20040119/154232.html

so, it would seem this isn't simply a request from an individual to remove
*their* copyright material, but instead, an effort from someone else to
censor completely harmless content in our archive.

.jeff

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