>From: "Victor Papp" <victorpapp at yahoo.com> >Is there a way to determine the outer dimensions of the current window in >IE? You mean the dimensions with toolbars etc., right? I don't think there's a way to determine it, like Netscape's outerWidth. Maybe window.clientWidth would work, but this is a guess. See http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/index.html?winprop.html for the properties that do work (but it doesn't give the property you want). Maybe it gives you some inspiration. ppk _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com