[Javascript] accessing a form element
Peter Brunone
peter at brunone.com
Tue Apr 6 12:42:30 CDT 2004
Hakan,
Calm down, please. You've made it plain that you fervently hate Microsoft, and are full of the same narrow-mindedness of which you are accusing others. Can we get back to answering questions now?
We all know you're an excellent developer, and a great source of information, and AFAIK, we all have a great deal of respect for you here. Don't ruin that respect by foaming at the mouth over platform differences.
Regards,
Peter
Original Message:
>From: Håkan Magnusson <hakan at backbase.com>
>The exaggaration is in your personal view of MSDN, but sure, we are all
>free to think whatever we wish. I've always found Microsofts resources
>very illogical, and their "tips" on how to work around bugs in their
>software are truly laughable. Internet Explorer can't handle too many
>dynamic images loading. Microsofts solution, to all the developers out
>there who want to support their software? Don't use dynamic images.
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;269802
>
>And, then, to state that Microsoft should be responsible for most of the
>languages and techniques described on the web is really exaggarating it.
>You state this by saying that MSDN is the most comprehensive collection
>of Developer information on the net. I'm a developer in many areas of
>software and the internet, and I can't find anything I need on MSDN. I
>didn't find any docs covereing PostGreSQL. No PHP language overview. No
>Java tutorial.
>
>So maybe you did mean Microsoft propriety documentation after all, like
>I stated in my earlier mail? And maybe you can imagine that even though
>Microsoft do support "HTML" and "JavaScript" in some of their products,
>their implementation is not necessarely (very rarely) the standard, or
>even the correct one. If you're about to start working with XML in a
>non-Windows environment and you're resource for that is MSDN, you are
>going to get fired very soon.
>
>Finally, far, far from all developers ever use Microsofts products. For
>those developers, MSDN is just a slow, bloated pile of non-standardised
>crap. Being one of those developers, developing for Microsoft products
>only when absolutely necessary, I will never ever think that MSDN is the
>most comprehensive collection of developer information on the net.
>
>Regards,
>H
>
>Chris T wrote:
>
>> Maybe I should clarify it: Most comprehensive collection of Developer
>> information on the Net. Without a doubt. There's no exaggeration in that
>> statement.
>>
>> Microsoft is great. I watch their webcasts all the time too:
>> http://microsoft.com/webcasts
>>
>> Nobody else is putting as much quality content on the web to help
>> developers. Even if it is being used to benefit them, it's still an
>> impressive collection.
>>
>> Chris Tifer
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Håkan Magnusson" <hakan at backbase.com>
>>
>> Isn't that overexaggarating it a bit? Perhaps the most comprehensive
>> collection of information on the net... on Microsoft proprietary issues.
>> ;) On a sidenote, the left navigation doesn't show up correctly in
>> Mozilla, so I guess that if you want to access Microsofts view of
>> things, you'll need to use their browser.
>>
>> Regards,
>> H
>>
>> Chris T wrote:
>>
>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
>>>
>>>Click on Web Development | HTML and Dynamic HTML | SDK Documentation |
>>>Reference and you'll have a list of everything you need.
>>>
>>>I consider this to be by far the most comprehensive collection of
>>>information on the Net.
>>>
>>>Chris Tifer
>>>http://emailajoke.com
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Håkan Magnusson" <hakan at backbase.com>
>>>
>>>I've never liked MSDN's way of "organizing", meaning I can't find squat
>>>on their site, but someone else here can probably tell you where their
>>>JavaScript-reference is.
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