From skyscanner at eircom.net  Sat Oct  1 08:48:05 2005
From: skyscanner at eircom.net (SkyScanner)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:48:05 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] OT - User Management Software
References: <BAY19-F205E8D0C41CB4A498679B1A88A0@phx.gbl><00f601c5c589$4e7af6c0$ab882ec2@ic7g>
	<5.1.0.14.2.20050930075143.03321a00@mail.latech.edu>
Message-ID: <001c01c5c68e$cd5ff200$b0892ec2@ic7g>

A quick summary of advice received: (thanks to those who responded!!)

Various content management systems were suggested, such as
Plone http://plone.org/
Drupal  www.drupal.org

Other CMS packages are reviewed here:
http://www.opensourcecms.com/
http://www.cmsmatrix.org/

However these were all rather over the top for what I needed: a simple
User-Management script that could be tacked on to some pages. Two resources
surfaced:
http://evolt.org/node/60384
http://www.phpfreaks.com/tutorials/78/0.php

and I will be checking them out shortly.

Tim in Ireland.




From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 11:34:54 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:34:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
Message-ID: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>

Ok, so I have a <form id="foo">

Is this the best way to access descendents of <form>?
By keying off the ancestor, and then looping through
it's elements?

Or should I give each form element it's own id...

I want to change the value of an attribute of an input
field:

<input type="text" name="foo">

want to change it to 

<input type="text" name="bar">


What I ended up doing was giving the <input> element
an id="searchfield", and then looping through it's
attributes using '.attributes' on the input object,
and testing the name of the attribute == 'name'. and
then replacing it's value with 'bar'.

Is there an easier way to access an attribute of an
element if I know it's direct path?

Seems to me very inefficient to have to do looping if
it's not necessary.

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From flavio at economisa.com.br  Tue Oct  4 11:53:28 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:53:28 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4342B388.90002@economisa.com.br>


Having a form named* "myForm" and an input named "myInput":
 You can access it by "document.myForm.myInput" in the majority of the 
browsers.

* Yeah, by "named" I mean giving the "name" atribute a value.

<form name=myForm action=processStuff.html>
  <input type=text name=myInput value="Enter Text" />
  <input type=submit name=mySubmit value="Go" />
</form>

<script language="JavaScript">
  alert(document.myForm.myInput.value);

  document.myForm.myInput.onkeydown = function () {window.status=this.value}
</script>

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br



Anthony Ettinger wrote:

>Ok, so I have a <form id="foo">
>
>Is this the best way to access descendents of <form>?
>By keying off the ancestor, and then looping through
>it's elements?
>
>Or should I give each form element it's own id...
>
>I want to change the value of an attribute of an input
>field:
>
><input type="text" name="foo">
>
>want to change it to 
>
><input type="text" name="bar">
>
>
>What I ended up doing was giving the <input> element
>an id="searchfield", and then looping through it's
>attributes using '.attributes' on the input object,
>and testing the name of the attribute == 'name'. and
>then replacing it's value with 'bar'.
>
>Is there an easier way to access an attribute of an
>element if I know it's direct path?
>
>Seems to me very inefficient to have to do looping if
>it's not necessary.
>
>Anthony Ettinger
>ph: (408) 656-2473
>blog: http://www.chovy.com
>
>
>		
>__________________________________ 
>Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 
>http://mail.yahoo.com
>_______________________________________________
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>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>  
>



From flavio at economisa.com.br  Tue Oct  4 11:56:43 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:56:43 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <4342B388.90002@economisa.com.br>
References: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>
	<4342B388.90002@economisa.com.br>
Message-ID: <4342B44B.2080204@economisa.com.br>

OT: The "onkeyup" instead of onkeydown would give a better effect on the 
script.

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br

Flavio Gomes wrote:

>
> Having a form named* "myForm" and an input named "myInput":
> You can access it by "document.myForm.myInput" in the majority of the 
> browsers.
>
> * Yeah, by "named" I mean giving the "name" atribute a value.
>
> <form name=myForm action=processStuff.html>
>  <input type=text name=myInput value="Enter Text" />
>  <input type=submit name=mySubmit value="Go" />
> </form>
>
> <script language="JavaScript">
>  alert(document.myForm.myInput.value);
>
>  document.myForm.myInput.onkeydown = function () 
> {window.status=this.value}
> </script>
>



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 11:57:03 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <4342B388.90002@economisa.com.br>
Message-ID: <20051004165703.31028.qmail@web51106.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, you can. But it's my understanding that method is
quickly becoming obsolete, infavor of 

var object = document.getElementById('foo');





--- Flavio Gomes <flavio at economisa.com.br> wrote:

> 
> Having a form named* "myForm" and an input named
> "myInput":
>  You can access it by "document.myForm.myInput" in
> the majority of the 
> browsers.
> 
> * Yeah, by "named" I mean giving the "name" atribute
> a value.
> 
> <form name=myForm action=processStuff.html>
>   <input type=text name=myInput value="Enter Text"
> />
>   <input type=submit name=mySubmit value="Go" />
> </form>
> 
> <script language="JavaScript">
>   alert(document.myForm.myInput.value);
> 
>   document.myForm.myInput.onkeydown = function ()
> {window.status=this.value}
> </script>
> 
> -- 
> Flavio Gomes
> flavio at economisa.com.br
> 
> 
> 
> Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> 
> >Ok, so I have a <form id="foo">
> >
> >Is this the best way to access descendents of
> <form>?
> >By keying off the ancestor, and then looping
> through
> >it's elements?
> >
> >Or should I give each form element it's own id...
> >
> >I want to change the value of an attribute of an
> input
> >field:
> >
> ><input type="text" name="foo">
> >
> >want to change it to 
> >
> ><input type="text" name="bar">
> >
> >
> >What I ended up doing was giving the <input>
> element
> >an id="searchfield", and then looping through it's
> >attributes using '.attributes' on the input object,
> >and testing the name of the attribute == 'name'.
> and
> >then replacing it's value with 'bar'.
> >
> >Is there an easier way to access an attribute of an
> >element if I know it's direct path?
> >
> >Seems to me very inefficient to have to do looping
> if
> >it's not necessary.
> >
> >Anthony Ettinger
> >ph: (408) 656-2473
> >blog: http://www.chovy.com
> >
> >
> >		
> >__________________________________ 
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> >http://mail.yahoo.com
> >_______________________________________________
> >Javascript mailing list
> >Javascript at LaTech.edu
>
>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> >  
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> 


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From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct  4 12:08:42 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:08:42 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004095016.04acc4e0@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 09:34 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
...
>I want to change the value of an attribute of an input
>field:
>
><input type="text" name="foo">
>
>want to change it to
>
><input type="text" name="bar">
>
>What I ended up doing was giving the <input> element
>an id="searchfield", and then looping through it's
>attributes using '.attributes' on the input object,
>and testing the name of the attribute == 'name'. and
>then replacing it's value with 'bar'.
>
>Is there an easier way to access an attribute of an
>element if I know it's direct path?
>
>Seems to me very inefficient to have to do looping if
>it's not necessary.

Anthony,

Giving an element an id so you can point to it without searching is 
great if your situation allows.  I can think of situations in which I 
might choose to search (loop) for an element -- e.g., if I 
potentially needed to select more than one element in a group, or if 
I needed to select on the basis of attributes other than id or 
tagName, or if I didn't have control over the markup.  In your case 
you need to select an element by its name attribute and therefore 
have to either search or add an id.

However, I can't see why you'd need to loop through the attributes in 
the target element.  If you're using id to point to the element, you 
don't need to test for the current name so just set the name and 
you're done.  If you've found the target element by searching, you 
can use the getAttribute() method to check each element's name as you 
cycle through them.
__________________________
Either:
         < input id="inputFoo" name="foo" ... />

         // point to it
         var oInput = document.getElementById("inputFoo");

                 // if it exists, set its name
                 if (oInput) oInput.setAttribute("bar");
__________________________
Or:
         < form id="foo" ... >
                 < input name="foo" ... />
         </form>

         // point to the form
         var oForm = document.getElementById("foo");

                 // bail if not found
                 if (!oForm) return;

         // get array of all INPUT elements
         var aInputs = oForm.getElementsByTagName("INPUT");

         // search for foo
         for (var iInput = 0; iInput < aInputs.length; iInput++)
         {
                 // if found...
                 if (aInputs[iInput].getAttribute("name") == "foo")
                 {
                         // change name
                         aInputs[iInput].setAttribute("name", "bar");

                         // exit the FOR loop
                         break;
                 }
         }
__________________________

Caveat: Seat-of-the-pants coding, needs testing.

Paul 



From peter at brunone.com  Tue Oct  4 12:09:21 2005
From: peter at brunone.com (Peter Brunone)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:09:21 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
Message-ID: <0f2a1fb16f954792a8a597655b88ce66@brunone.com>

Based on what source?

Is the name attribute becoming obsolete?  I find it hard to believe they'd change the form object model like that, but stranger things have happened...

 From: Anthony Ettinger apwebdesign at yahoo.com

Yes, you can. But it's my understanding that method is
quickly becoming obsolete, infavor of 

var object = document.getElementById('foo');

--- Flavio Gomes wrote:
> 
> Having a form named* "myForm" and an input named
> "myInput":
> You can access it by "document.myForm.myInput" in
> the majority of the 
> browsers.
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From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct  4 12:14:35 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:14:35 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004101307.03017ed8@mail.spamarrest.com>

...and of course I meant to write:

__________________________
Either:
	< input id="inputFoo" name="foo" ... />

	// point to it
	var oInput = document.getElementById("inputFoo");

		// if it exists, set its name
		if (oInput) oInput.setAttribute("name", "bar");
__________________________

NOT: 		if (oInput) oInput.setAttribute("bar");


Paul



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 12:20:20 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:20:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004095016.04acc4e0@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051004172021.38102.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 09:34 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> ...
> >I want to change the value of an attribute of an
> input
> >field:
> >
> ><input type="text" name="foo">
> >
> >want to change it to
> >
> ><input type="text" name="bar">
> >
> >What I ended up doing was giving the <input>
> element
> >an id="searchfield", and then looping through it's
> >attributes using '.attributes' on the input object,
> >and testing the name of the attribute == 'name'.
> and
> >then replacing it's value with 'bar'.
> >
> >Is there an easier way to access an attribute of an
> >element if I know it's direct path?
> >
> >Seems to me very inefficient to have to do looping
> if
> >it's not necessary.
> 
> Anthony,
> 
> Giving an element an id so you can point to it
> without searching is 
> great if your situation allows.  I can think of
> situations in which I 
> might choose to search (loop) for an element --
> e.g., if I 
> potentially needed to select more than one element
> in a group, or if 
> I needed to select on the basis of attributes other
> than id or 
> tagName, or if I didn't have control over the
> markup.  In your case 
> you need to select an element by its name attribute
> and therefore 
> have to either search or add an id.
> 
> However, I can't see why you'd need to loop through
> the attributes in 
> the target element.  If you're using id to point to
> the element, you 
> don't need to test for the current name so just set
> the name and 
> you're done.  If you've found the target element by
> searching, you 
> can use the getAttribute() method to check each
> element's name as you 
> cycle through them.
> __________________________
> Either:
>          < input id="inputFoo" name="foo" ... />
> 
>          // point to it
>          var oInput =
> document.getElementById("inputFoo");
> 
>                  // if it exists, set its name
>                  if (oInput)
> oInput.setAttribute("bar");
> __________________________
> Or:
>          < form id="foo" ... >
>                  < input name="foo" ... />
>          </form>
> 
>          // point to the form
>          var oForm = document.getElementById("foo");
> 
>                  // bail if not found
>                  if (!oForm) return;
> 
>          // get array of all INPUT elements
>          var aInputs =
> oForm.getElementsByTagName("INPUT");
> 
>          // search for foo
>          for (var iInput = 0; iInput <
> aInputs.length; iInput++)
>          {
>                  // if found...
>                  if
> (aInputs[iInput].getAttribute("name") == "foo")
>                  {
>                          // change name
>                         
> aInputs[iInput].setAttribute("name", "bar");
> 
>                          // exit the FOR loop
>                          break;
>                  }
>          }

Yes, this is what I came up with:

function changeAttrib(id, attrib, newValue)
{
	var elemObj = document.getElementById(id);
	elemObj.setAttribute(attrib, newValue);

	return true;
}





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blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 12:22:09 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <0f2a1fb16f954792a8a597655b88ce66@brunone.com>
Message-ID: <20051004172210.71035.qmail@web51113.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, from what I've talked with some co-workers, they
are saying 'id' should be used instead of 'name'.
Although I'm sure they will always be backwards
compatible. The problem I raised was what do you do in
a radio group? where id would/should be the name (but
id implies only one per page).

I don't know who is right/wrong. But the latest
javascript I've seen all seems to revolve around
getElementById.



--- Peter Brunone <peter at brunone.com> wrote:

> Based on what source?
> 
> Is the name attribute becoming obsolete?  I find it
> hard to believe they'd change the form object model
> like that, but stranger things have happened...
> 
>  From: Anthony Ettinger apwebdesign at yahoo.com
> 
> Yes, you can. But it's my understanding that method
> is
> quickly becoming obsolete, infavor of 
> 
> var object = document.getElementById('foo');
> 
> --- Flavio Gomes wrote:
> > 
> > Having a form named* "myForm" and an input named
> > "myInput":
> > You can access it by "document.myForm.myInput" in
> > the majority of the 
> > browsers.
> > _____________________________________



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blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 12:29:18 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:29:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays
Message-ID: <20051004172918.39969.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>

It's been a long time since I've done one of these in
javascript.

But I need the equivalent of a perl hashref:

localToRemoteMapping[id][attrib] = value;

How do I define a multidimensional array?




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From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct  4 12:29:56 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:29:56 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004172021.38102.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004095016.04acc4e0@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<20051004172021.38102.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004102709.04dd8c68@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 10:20 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
>Yes, this is what I came up with:
>
>function changeAttrib(id, attrib, newValue)
>{
>         var elemObj = document.getElementById(id);
>         elemObj.setAttribute(attrib, newValue);
>
>         return true;
>}


Looks good.  But why are you returning true?  You don't have to, 
especially in a case like this where your function ALWAYS returns the 
same value.  Unlike some other languages (VBscript, for example), 
JavaScript lets you treat a function like a sub call, that is:

         x = doSomething(y);

or simply:

         doSomething(y);

Paul 



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 12:36:59 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004102709.04dd8c68@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051004173659.24470.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 10:20 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> >Yes, this is what I came up with:
> >
> >function changeAttrib(id, attrib, newValue)
> >{
> >         var elemObj = document.getElementById(id);
> >         elemObj.setAttribute(attrib, newValue);
> >
> >         return true;
> >}
> 
> 
> Looks good.  But why are you returning true?  You
> don't have to, 
> especially in a case like this where your function
> ALWAYS returns the 
> same value.  Unlike some other languages (VBscript,
> for example), 
> JavaScript lets you treat a function like a sub
> call, that is:
> 
>          x = doSomething(y);
> 
> or simply:
> 
>          doSomething(y);

Agreed, I wasn't sure what the standard was. I've
heard people say "always return true", and others only
if it's returning a value should you use return.

I've shortened the function:

function changeAttrib(id, attrib, newValue)
{
	document.getElementById(id).setAttribute(attrib,
newValue);
}



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blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From skyscanner at eircom.net  Tue Oct  4 12:40:31 2005
From: skyscanner at eircom.net (SkyScanner)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:40:31 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays
References: <20051004172918.39969.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008d01c5c90a$cdcc4760$4e892ec2@ic7g>

results = new Array();

results[0] = ["KQ2M", "4", "41.393200", "-73.320100"];
results[1] = ["N9RV", "5", "40.295400", "-85.262500"];
results[2] = ["KV0Q", "5", "39.504800", "-104.738200"];
results[3] = ["N2NT", "5", "40.379300", "-74.495900"];
results[4] = ["NX5M", "5", "30.440100", "-96.498500"];
results[5] = ["K1SE", "5", "38.747800", "-77.485300"];
results[6] = ["W0AIH", "5", "44.744100", "-91.294500"];
results[7] = ["W4MYA", "5", "37.717900", "-78.005900"];
results[8] = ["K9NW", "4", "39.328400", "-84.546500"];
results[9] = ["W9RE", "4", "39.661300", "-85.994900"];

or

viewlist90 = {
colname: ["Name","State","County","Fips","Area sq-mile","Area
sq-m","Population","Pop Density"],
colwidth: [20,6,20,6,12,12,12,12],
coldata: [
{z0:"Anson",z1:"ME",z2:"Somerset",z3:"23-01360",z4:"1.3206",z5:"3420335",z6:
"818",z7:"619.416"},
{z0:"Auburn",z1:"ME",z2:"Androscoggin",z3:"23-02060",z4:"59.7846",z5:"154841
502",z6:"23203",z7:"388.11"},
{z0:"Augusta",z1:"ME",z2:"Kennebec",z3:"23-02100",z4:"55.3812",z5:"143436533
",z6:"18560",z7:"335.132"},
{z0:"Bangor",z1:"ME",z2:"Penobscot",z3:"23-02795",z4:"34.446",z5:"89214664",
z6:"31473",z7:"913.692"},
{z0:"Bar
Harbor",z1:"ME",z2:"Hancock",z3:"23-02830",z4:"3.14878",z5:"8155298",z6:"268
0",z7:"851.124"},
{z0:"Bath",z1:"ME",z2:"Sagadahoc",z3:"23-03355",z4:"9.1127",z5:"23601779",z6
:"9266",z7:"1016.82"},
{z0:"Belfast",z1:"ME",z2:"Waldo",z3:"23-03950",z4:"34.039",z5:"88160555",z6:
"6381",z7:"187.462"},
{z0:"Berwick",z1:"ME",z2:"York",z3:"23-04685",z4:"1.53112",z5:"3965578",z6:"
1993",z7:"1301.66"}
]
}


Tim in Ireland

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Ettinger" <apwebdesign at yahoo.com>
To: <javascript at latech.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays


> It's been a long time since I've done one of these in
> javascript.
>
> But I need the equivalent of a perl hashref:
>
> localToRemoteMapping[id][attrib] = value;
>
> How do I define a multidimensional array?
>
>
>
>
> Anthony Ettinger
> ph: (408) 656-2473
> blog: http://www.chovy.com
>
>
>
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From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct  4 12:47:59 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:47:59 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004172210.71035.qmail@web51113.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <0f2a1fb16f954792a8a597655b88ce66@brunone.com>
	<20051004172210.71035.qmail@web51113.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004103426.050d6b08@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 10:22 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
>Well, from what I've talked with some co-workers, they
>are saying 'id' should be used instead of 'name'.
>Although I'm sure they will always be backwards
>compatible. The problem I raised was what do you do in
>a radio group? where id would/should be the name (but
>id implies only one per page).
>
>I don't know who is right/wrong. But the latest
>javascript I've seen all seems to revolve around
>getElementById.


The NAME attribute isn't unique -- there can be more than one element 
with the same name on the page.  This is exactly how radio buttons 
work -- they all share the same name, and only the selected element's 
value is transmitted on submit.  If more than one active field has 
the same name in a form, their values are submitted as a comma-delimited list.

As I understand it, the NAME attribute today is used to organize form 
fields for submission but isn't otherwise useful in the DOM.

In the DOM, the two methods we're given to locate items immediately 
are getElementById() and getElementsByTagName(), but 
"getElementsByName()" doesn't exist.

See the HTML 4.01 spec:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#adef-name-FORM
"name = cdata [CI]
     "This attribute names the element so that it may be referred to 
from style sheets or scripts. Note. This attribute has been included 
for backwards compatibility. Applications should use the id attribute 
to identify elements."

It's always a good idea to run your HTML through the W3C validator 
http://validator.w3.org/ -- it will point out if & where your markup 
strays from the recommended path.

Paul 



From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct  4 12:51:10 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:51:10 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004173659.24470.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004102709.04dd8c68@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<20051004173659.24470.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004104918.048ce758@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 10:36 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:
>I've shortened the function:
>
>function changeAttrib(id, attrib, newValue)
>{
>         document.getElementById(id).setAttribute(attrib,
>newValue);
>}

I would argue for a safer coding practice:

         var oEl = document.getElementById(id);
                 if (oEl) oEl.setAttribute(attrib, newValue);

...in order to avoid a javascript error message if the expected 
element doesn't exist on the page.

Paul 



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 13:18:20 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004103426.050d6b08@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051004181820.91976.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 10:22 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> >Well, from what I've talked with some co-workers,
> they
> >are saying 'id' should be used instead of 'name'.
> >Although I'm sure they will always be backwards
> >compatible. The problem I raised was what do you do
> in
> >a radio group? where id would/should be the name
> (but
> >id implies only one per page).
> >
> >I don't know who is right/wrong. But the latest
> >javascript I've seen all seems to revolve around
> >getElementById.
> 
> 
> The NAME attribute isn't unique -- there can be more
> than one element 
> with the same name on the page.  This is exactly how
> radio buttons 
> work -- they all share the same name, and only the
> selected element's 
> value is transmitted on submit.  If more than one
> active field has 
> the same name in a form, their values are submitted
> as a comma-delimited list.
> 
> As I understand it, the NAME attribute today is used
> to organize form 
> fields for submission but isn't otherwise useful in
> the DOM.
> 
> In the DOM, the two methods we're given to locate
> items immediately 
> are getElementById() and getElementsByTagName(), but
> 
> "getElementsByName()" doesn't exist.
> 
> See the HTML 4.01 spec:
>
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#adef-name-FORM
> "name = cdata [CI]
>      "This attribute names the element so that it
> may be referred to 
> from style sheets or scripts. Note. This attribute
> has been included 
> for backwards compatibility. Applications should use
> the id attribute 
> to identify elements."
> 
> It's always a good idea to run your HTML through the
> W3C validator 
> http://validator.w3.org/ -- it will point out if &
> where your markup 
> strays from the recommended path.

I haven't tested it, but if you leave name attribute
off, the id gets sent as the parameter name. The only
case I see this being a problem is when you have
objects with the same name (ie- a radio list).

So I'm guessing 'name' will not be deprecated in the
future.



Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 13:20:17 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004104918.048ce758@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051004182017.20062.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 10:36 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:
> >I've shortened the function:
> >
> >function changeAttrib(id, attrib, newValue)
> >{
> >        
> document.getElementById(id).setAttribute(attrib,
> >newValue);
> >}
> 
> I would argue for a safer coding practice:
> 
>          var oEl = document.getElementById(id);
>                  if (oEl) oEl.setAttribute(attrib,
> newValue);
> 
> ...in order to avoid a javascript error message if
> the expected 
> element doesn't exist on the page.
> 

Great. So you recommend testing for getElementById
first, good idea.

Would you bother with an else in that statement? Or
simply break it. I personally don't care to support
older versions of IE and NS. Accessible means screen
readers, mobile devices, etc. ANY javascript would
break on those.



Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From flavio at economisa.com.br  Tue Oct  4 13:25:58 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:25:58 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays
In-Reply-To: <008d01c5c90a$cdcc4760$4e892ec2@ic7g>
References: <20051004172918.39969.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
	<008d01c5c90a$cdcc4760$4e892ec2@ic7g>
Message-ID: <4342C936.9090107@economisa.com.br>

Sending my Example:

<script language="JavaScript">

 x = 0;
 array = new Array('a','b','c');

 while(array[x])
 { array[x] = new Array(array[x]+'1',array[x]+'2',array[x]+'3')
   x++;
 }

 alert(array);
 alert(array[1]);
 alert(array[1][1]);

</script>

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br



SkyScanner wrote:

>results = new Array();
>
>results[0] = ["KQ2M", "4", "41.393200", "-73.320100"];
>results[1] = ["N9RV", "5", "40.295400", "-85.262500"];
>results[2] = ["KV0Q", "5", "39.504800", "-104.738200"];
>results[3] = ["N2NT", "5", "40.379300", "-74.495900"];
>results[4] = ["NX5M", "5", "30.440100", "-96.498500"];
>results[5] = ["K1SE", "5", "38.747800", "-77.485300"];
>results[6] = ["W0AIH", "5", "44.744100", "-91.294500"];
>results[7] = ["W4MYA", "5", "37.717900", "-78.005900"];
>results[8] = ["K9NW", "4", "39.328400", "-84.546500"];
>results[9] = ["W9RE", "4", "39.661300", "-85.994900"];
>
>or
>
>viewlist90 = {
>colname: ["Name","State","County","Fips","Area sq-mile","Area
>sq-m","Population","Pop Density"],
>colwidth: [20,6,20,6,12,12,12,12],
>coldata: [
>{z0:"Anson",z1:"ME",z2:"Somerset",z3:"23-01360",z4:"1.3206",z5:"3420335",z6:
>"818",z7:"619.416"},
>{z0:"Auburn",z1:"ME",z2:"Androscoggin",z3:"23-02060",z4:"59.7846",z5:"154841
>502",z6:"23203",z7:"388.11"},
>{z0:"Augusta",z1:"ME",z2:"Kennebec",z3:"23-02100",z4:"55.3812",z5:"143436533
>",z6:"18560",z7:"335.132"},
>{z0:"Bangor",z1:"ME",z2:"Penobscot",z3:"23-02795",z4:"34.446",z5:"89214664",
>z6:"31473",z7:"913.692"},
>{z0:"Bar
>Harbor",z1:"ME",z2:"Hancock",z3:"23-02830",z4:"3.14878",z5:"8155298",z6:"268
>0",z7:"851.124"},
>{z0:"Bath",z1:"ME",z2:"Sagadahoc",z3:"23-03355",z4:"9.1127",z5:"23601779",z6
>:"9266",z7:"1016.82"},
>{z0:"Belfast",z1:"ME",z2:"Waldo",z3:"23-03950",z4:"34.039",z5:"88160555",z6:
>"6381",z7:"187.462"},
>{z0:"Berwick",z1:"ME",z2:"York",z3:"23-04685",z4:"1.53112",z5:"3965578",z6:"
>1993",z7:"1301.66"}
>]
>}
>
>
>Tim in Ireland
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Anthony Ettinger" <apwebdesign at yahoo.com>
>To: <javascript at latech.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:29 PM
>Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays
>
>
>  
>
>>It's been a long time since I've done one of these in
>>javascript.
>>
>>But I need the equivalent of a perl hashref:
>>
>>localToRemoteMapping[id][attrib] = value;
>>
>>How do I define a multidimensional array?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Anthony Ettinger
>>ph: (408) 656-2473
>>blog: http://www.chovy.com
>>
>>
>>
>>__________________________________
>>Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
>>http://mail.yahoo.com
>>_______________________________________________
>>Javascript mailing list
>>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Javascript mailing list
>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>  
>



From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct  4 14:06:06 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:06:06 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004182017.20062.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004104918.048ce758@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<20051004182017.20062.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051004114343.04cd05e8@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 11:20 AM 10/4/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
>--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:
> > I would argue for a safer coding practice:
> >
> >          var oEl = document.getElementById(id);
> >                  if (oEl) oEl.setAttribute(attrib,
> > newValue);
> >
> > ...in order to avoid a javascript error message if
> > the expected
> > element doesn't exist on the page.
> >
>
>Great. So you recommend testing for getElementById
>first, good idea.

Anthony,

Well, no, actually, I wasn't testing for the getElementById() 
capability, I was testing for the existence of the identified element 
(id) on the page.

It might seem twitchy if not downright neurotically fussy to test for 
the existence of a page element that you yourself are placing in the 
markup, but the history of software development is littered with the 
bodies of dead code that won't run because the programmers made one 
too many assumptions about the predictability of future contexts...

I do test for DOM capability, but I only do so once:

None of my javascript functions are triggered directly from the HTML 
file (I don't use inline behavior in the markup like <tag 
onclick="doSomething()">).  Instead, my linked javascript file 
contains a window.onload statement that runs an initialization 
function; that function assigns behaviors as needed to various page elements.

In this way, no javascript is executed unless the initialization 
function completes. If the init function begins by testing for the 
DOM capabilities it requires, effectively all subroutines are 
protected from being run by non-DOM-aware browsers, so there's no 
need to keep testing for DOM capability anywhere else.

function Initialize()
{
         if (!document.getElementById) return;
         if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
         // etc.
}


>Would you bother with an else in that statement? Or
>simply break it. I personally don't care to support
>older versions of IE and NS. Accessible means screen
>readers, mobile devices, etc. ANY javascript would
>break on those.

If an expected page element doesn't exist, or a browser lacks DOM 
capability, I suppose you could bring up an alert() notifying the 
user if the lacking functionality is critical.  In most cases I 
simply end silently if running in a DOM-unaware browser.  Missing 
page elements are more troublesome and might indicate that someone 
has made a mistake in editing the markup or that the script is being 
run with an inappropriate page, and therefore might deserve a warning 
message so the user can notify the developer.

Paul 



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  4 14:26:09 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 12:26:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays
In-Reply-To: <4342C936.9090107@economisa.com.br>
Message-ID: <20051004192609.9349.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>

associative array uses a word, not a number for the
index.



--- Flavio Gomes <flavio at economisa.com.br> wrote:

> Sending my Example:
> 
> <script language="JavaScript">
> 
>  x = 0;
>  array = new Array('a','b','c');
> 
>  while(array[x])
>  { array[x] = new
> Array(array[x]+'1',array[x]+'2',array[x]+'3')
>    x++;
>  }
> 
>  alert(array);
>  alert(array[1]);
>  alert(array[1][1]);
> 
> </script>
> 
> -- 
> Flavio Gomes
> flavio at economisa.com.br
> 
> 
> 
> SkyScanner wrote:
> 
> >results = new Array();
> >
> >results[0] = ["KQ2M", "4", "41.393200",
> "-73.320100"];
> >results[1] = ["N9RV", "5", "40.295400",
> "-85.262500"];
> >results[2] = ["KV0Q", "5", "39.504800",
> "-104.738200"];
> >results[3] = ["N2NT", "5", "40.379300",
> "-74.495900"];
> >results[4] = ["NX5M", "5", "30.440100",
> "-96.498500"];
> >results[5] = ["K1SE", "5", "38.747800",
> "-77.485300"];
> >results[6] = ["W0AIH", "5", "44.744100",
> "-91.294500"];
> >results[7] = ["W4MYA", "5", "37.717900",
> "-78.005900"];
> >results[8] = ["K9NW", "4", "39.328400",
> "-84.546500"];
> >results[9] = ["W9RE", "4", "39.661300",
> "-85.994900"];
> >
> >or
> >
> >viewlist90 = {
> >colname: ["Name","State","County","Fips","Area
> sq-mile","Area
> >sq-m","Population","Pop Density"],
> >colwidth: [20,6,20,6,12,12,12,12],
> >coldata: [
>
>{z0:"Anson",z1:"ME",z2:"Somerset",z3:"23-01360",z4:"1.3206",z5:"3420335",z6:
> >"818",z7:"619.416"},
>
>{z0:"Auburn",z1:"ME",z2:"Androscoggin",z3:"23-02060",z4:"59.7846",z5:"154841
> >502",z6:"23203",z7:"388.11"},
>
>{z0:"Augusta",z1:"ME",z2:"Kennebec",z3:"23-02100",z4:"55.3812",z5:"143436533
> >",z6:"18560",z7:"335.132"},
>
>{z0:"Bangor",z1:"ME",z2:"Penobscot",z3:"23-02795",z4:"34.446",z5:"89214664",
> >z6:"31473",z7:"913.692"},
> >{z0:"Bar
>
>Harbor",z1:"ME",z2:"Hancock",z3:"23-02830",z4:"3.14878",z5:"8155298",z6:"268
> >0",z7:"851.124"},
>
>{z0:"Bath",z1:"ME",z2:"Sagadahoc",z3:"23-03355",z4:"9.1127",z5:"23601779",z6
> >:"9266",z7:"1016.82"},
>
>{z0:"Belfast",z1:"ME",z2:"Waldo",z3:"23-03950",z4:"34.039",z5:"88160555",z6:
> >"6381",z7:"187.462"},
>
>{z0:"Berwick",z1:"ME",z2:"York",z3:"23-04685",z4:"1.53112",z5:"3965578",z6:"
> >1993",z7:"1301.66"}
> >]
> >}
> >
> >
> >Tim in Ireland
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Anthony Ettinger" <apwebdesign at yahoo.com>
> >To: <javascript at latech.edu>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:29 PM
> >Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative
> arrays
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>It's been a long time since I've done one of these
> in
> >>javascript.
> >>
> >>But I need the equivalent of a perl hashref:
> >>
> >>localToRemoteMapping[id][attrib] = value;
> >>
> >>How do I define a multidimensional array?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Anthony Ettinger
> >>ph: (408) 656-2473
> >>blog: http://www.chovy.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>__________________________________
> >>Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
> >>http://mail.yahoo.com
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Javascript mailing list
> >>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>
>>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Javascript mailing list
> >Javascript at LaTech.edu
>
>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> >  
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> 


Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From wdlists at triche-osborne.com  Tue Oct  4 17:45:56 2005
From: wdlists at triche-osborne.com (Triche Osborne)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:45:56 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004181820.91976.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051004181820.91976.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43430624.8040904@triche-osborne.com>

Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> 
> So I'm guessing 'name' will not be deprecated in the
> future.
> 
Not until POST and GET methods quit using it for their associated array 
keys I hope. ;-)

Triche



From davidh126 at writeme.com  Tue Oct  4 23:34:37 2005
From: davidh126 at writeme.com (David Hucklesby)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 21:34:37 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <20051004163454.9462.qmail@web51110.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2005104213437.669757@IBM-7079CBA4897>

Anthony Ettinger wrote:

> Or should I give each form element it's own id...

One other consideration that makes getElementById the easy way to access 
form elements is the use of the LABEL element. Adding a unique id to each 
form element and targetting it with a FOR attribute in the LABEL makes the 
form elements easier to access - you can click the LABEL's text to give the 
INPUT focus and to set a radio button or checkbox.

Cordially,
David
-- 
David Hucklesby, on 10/4/2005
<http://www.hucklesby.com/>
--





From nick at nickfitz.co.uk  Wed Oct  5 03:10:57 2005
From: nick at nickfitz.co.uk (Nick Fitzsimons)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:10:57 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Javascript] multidimensional associative arrays
In-Reply-To: <20051004192609.9349.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <4342C936.9090107@economisa.com.br> 
	<20051004192609.9349.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <26580.193.195.164.58.1128499857.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk>

> associative array uses a word, not a number for the
> index.
>

In JavaScript, you can assign named properties to objects without any
fuss. Therefore, you can just use something like:

var hashmap = new Object();

hashmap['Gorillas'] = new Object();
hashmap['Gorillas']['alpha'] = 'Frank';
hashmap['Gorillas']['juvenile'] = 'Gus';


hashmap['Chimpanzees'] = new Object();
hashmap['Chimpanzees']['alpha'] = 'Charly';
hashmap['Chimpanzees']['juvenile'] = 'Isaac';

and so on.

You could also use:

hashmap.Chimpanzees = new Object();
hashmap.Chimpanzees.alpha = 'Charly';

but if the strings are potentially going to include reserved words or
weird characters, you're better off using the bracketed string method.
This means you can easily access properties using variables:

function retrieveApe(species, status) {
   return hashmap[species][status];
}

alert(retrieveApe("Chimpanzees", "juvenile"));

will give you 'Isaac'.

 If you're not cataloguing an assortment of apes, feel free to change the
names :-)

HTH,

Nick.
-- 
Nick Fitzsimons
http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/



From borchers at tridem.de  Wed Oct  5 06:07:13 2005
From: borchers at tridem.de (Michael Borchers)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:07:13 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
Message-ID: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E581@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>

does anydbody know a good javascript book dealing with
the latest DOM features?


From javascript at mattbarton.org  Wed Oct  5 06:18:08 2005
From: javascript at mattbarton.org (Matt Barton)
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:18:08 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E581@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>
References: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E581@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>
Message-ID: <4343B670.3080607@mattbarton.org>

I use O'Reilly's "Dynamic HTML: The Definitive Reference" by Danny 
Goodman.  I find it an invaluable resource.  I have the second edition, 
which is a couple of years old by now, so it might not be what you want 
when you mention "the latest" DOM features, but I find it excellent on 
the whole.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596003161/qid=1128511041/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-7978538-9855621

Matt



Michael Borchers wrote:
> does anydbody know a good javascript book dealing with
> the latest DOM features?
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From massimo at amila.ch  Wed Oct  5 06:31:20 2005
From: massimo at amila.ch (Massimo Foti)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:31:20 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
References: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E581@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>
Message-ID: <003501c5c9a0$4f8ce030$2301a8c0@Massimo2000>

> does anydbody know a good javascript book dealing with
> the latest DOM features?

This book is pretty good:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764579088/

It deals with JavaScript and the DOM following modern techniques. I think it
could be worth a look (see my review on Amazon)

----------------------------
Massimo Foti
Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers:
http://www.massimocorner.com
----------------------------






From nick at nickfitz.co.uk  Wed Oct  5 06:40:03 2005
From: nick at nickfitz.co.uk (Nick Fitzsimons)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:40:03 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E581@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>
References: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E581@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>
Message-ID: <14994.193.195.164.58.1128512403.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk>

> does anydbody know a good javascript book dealing with
> the latest DOM features?

You should have a look at Stuart Langridge's DHTML Utopia:

<http://www.sitepoint.com/books/dhtml1/>

Despite the DHTML in the title (insisted on by the publishers,
apparently), the blurb on the site explains:

" DHTML Utopia: Modern Web Design Using JavaScript & DOM doesn?t cover
old-style, browser-specific DHTML. Modern DHTML, as presented in this
book, utilizes Web standards, separates the code from the markup, and
degrades gracefully.

"So your code will enhance sites? interactivity and usability in browsers
that can handle it, but won?t break the functionality on those that can?t.
You can use DHTML on any Website, without having to worry about causing
problems for even a small percent of your visitors. "

Stuart is a founder member of the Web Standard's Project's DOM Scripting
Task Force <http://domscripting.webstandards.org/>, and knows what he's
talking about.

(Openness and honesty: I'm also a founder member of WaSP DOM Scripting
TF... but that doesn't bias me in his favour :-)

HTH,

Nick.
-- 
Nick Fitzsimons
http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/




From alaneaston666 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  5 06:53:47 2005
From: alaneaston666 at hotmail.com (Alan Easton)
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:53:47 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Refresh frame to a specific <a name>
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From alaneaston666 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  5 07:20:15 2005
From: alaneaston666 at hotmail.com (Alan Easton)
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:20:15 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Move to a name in frame
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From nick at nickfitz.co.uk  Wed Oct  5 07:52:45 2005
From: nick at nickfitz.co.uk (Nick Fitzsimons)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:52:45 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Javascript] Move to a name in frame
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F690D1D4A8A666799C6825F9820@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY101-F690D1D4A8A666799C6825F9820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <22957.193.195.164.58.1128516765.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk>

>I have been using:
>
>self.parent.middle.location = self.parent.middle.location;
>
>to refresh the page which works fine. I already know the new ID of the
>record, so I
>now need to go to that  after the frame has refreshed.

Try:

var recordID = "fred";

self.parent.middle.location.reload();
self.parent.middle.location.hash = recordID;

using ASP to put the record ID in wherever it's appropriate - you could
just use

self.parent.middle.location.reload();
self.parent.middle.location.hash = "<%=recordID%>";

if you wanted.

HTH,

Nick.
-- 
Nick Fitzsimons
http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/



From Micha.Schopman at modernmedia.nl  Wed Oct  5 09:14:14 2005
From: Micha.Schopman at modernmedia.nl (Micha Schopman)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
Message-ID: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE164@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>

I 2nd that ... and not because we have reviewed it. It just IS a very
good book.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380

------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-----
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-----Original Message-----
From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu
[mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] On Behalf Of Massimo Foti
Sent: woensdag 5 oktober 2005 12:31
To: [JavaScript List]
Subject: Re: [Javascript] DOM book

> does anydbody know a good javascript book dealing with
> the latest DOM features?

This book is pretty good:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0764579088/

It deals with JavaScript and the DOM following modern techniques. I
think it
could be worth a look (see my review on Amazon)

----------------------------
Massimo Foti
Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers:
http://www.massimocorner.com
----------------------------




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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  5 09:57:22 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] javascript and id's
In-Reply-To: <2005104213437.669757@IBM-7079CBA4897>
Message-ID: <20051005145722.84639.qmail@web51105.mail.yahoo.com>

--- David Hucklesby <davidh126 at writeme.com> wrote:

> Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> 
> > Or should I give each form element it's own id...
> 
> One other consideration that makes getElementById
> the easy way to access
> form elements is the use of the LABEL element.
> Adding a unique id to each
> form element and targetting it with a FOR attribute
> in the LABEL makes the
> form elements easier to access - you can click the
> LABEL's text to give the
> INPUT focus and to set a radio button or checkbox.

<label for="foo">Foo:</label> <input type="text"
id="foo" name="foo"/>


You're suggesting this I assume?



Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From paulsturgess at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 17:58:40 2005
From: paulsturgess at gmail.com (Paul Sturgess)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:58:40 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE164@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
References: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE164@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
Message-ID: <41ddbab50510051558q63e8fc8cw@mail.gmail.com>

definitely check this book out by jeremy keith:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590595335/qid%3D1128552974/202-2282632-7616655

brand new out, all about unobtrusive javascript/dom scripting that
keeps your mark-up clean. highly recommend it.

> > does anydbody know a good javascript book dealing with
> > the latest DOM features?


From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  6 20:20:11 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:20:11 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE164@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
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From peter at brunone.com  Thu Oct  6 21:14:50 2005
From: peter at brunone.com (Peter Brunone)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:14:50 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F30F2224A6E8364DCF7F0B6A8840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000c01c5cae4$e63e3d40$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse>

 
    What's with the link?  All I saw was a site that would make me
instantly close my browser for fear of spyware (if I hadn't been using
Firefox today).

-----Original Message-----
From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu On Behalf Of Troy III Ajnej



Well, here is something that might interest you:

John Wiley & Sons - JavaScript Bible, 5th Ed(2004) PDF

This new edition streamlines previous 4th and Gold editions into one
handy volume that covers it all! All code examples have been updated to
the latest XHTML standards and re-integrated into the printed portions
of the book -- no more flipping back and forth between printed and
electronic versions to read all information from a chapter. If you are
new to JavaScript or use the book in your classroom, the updated
tutorial teaches you the latest Worldwide Web Consortium(W3C DOM)
techniques, preparing you to write scripts that work on today's and
tomorrow's browsers. You get the same clear, example-filled explanations
of all core JavaScript and features of modern browsers.

Try this link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=04IESU9U

TROY III

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From skyscanner at eircom.net  Fri Oct  7 03:26:34 2005
From: skyscanner at eircom.net (SkyScanner)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:26:34 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
References: <000c01c5cae4$e63e3d40$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse>
Message-ID: <01be01c5cb19$ec92ed00$e9882ec2@ic7g>

MessageTry this:

http://www05.megaupload.com/files/9967fb183ea79d925697c8f7547829f6/John Wiley & Sons - JavaScript Bible, 5th Ed (2004).pdf

The above link should be all on one line. Its 24.2MB so a Download Manager would be useful.

Its a great resource - thanks for sharing.

Tim in Ireland.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Brunone 
  To: '[JavaScript List]' 
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [Javascript] DOM book



      What's with the link?  All I saw was a site that would make me instantly close my browser for fear of spyware (if I hadn't been using Firefox today).
    -----Original Message-----
    From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu On Behalf Of Troy III Ajnej


    Well, here is something that might interest you:

    John Wiley & Sons - JavaScript Bible, 5th Ed(2004) PDF

    This new edition streamlines previous 4th and Gold editions into one handy volume that covers it all! All code examples have been updated to the latest XHTML standards and re-integrated into the printed portions of the book -- no more flipping back and forth between printed and electronic versions to read all information from a chapter. If you are new to JavaScript or use the book in your classroom, the updated tutorial teaches you the latest Worldwide Web Consortium(W3C DOM) techniques, preparing you to write scripts that work on today's and tomorrow's browsers. You get the same clear, example-filled explanations of all core JavaScript and features of modern browsers.

    Try this link:

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=04IESU9U

    TROY III



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From pnjaisan at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  7 04:35:39 2005
From: pnjaisan at yahoo.com (Jai Sankar N)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 02:35:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] Request.querystring type mismatch problem
Message-ID: <20051007093539.24673.qmail@web50307.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all
 
I'm passing information from one asp page to another asp page. it is always fine. but i get type mismatch error. actully i'm passing number but it gives error Type mismatch [String: Undefined].
 
this is my program flow.
 
un_com_det.asp
.
.
.
if request.querystring("lkcode")=1 then
      com=1
eselif request.querystring("lkcode")=2 then
     com=2
....
...
..
 
 
in Imageupload.asp file.
 
i'm checking the querystring values
if request.querystring("com")="1" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\About_"
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="2" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Trust_"
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="6" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Faq_"  
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="7" then
    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Tour_"
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="8" then
end if
 
 
but i'm using session instead of request.querystring it is working fine. 
 
if trim(session("com"))="1" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\About_"
  elseif session("Com")="2" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Trust_"
  elseif session("Com")="6" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Faq_"  
  elseif session("Com")="7" then
    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Tour_"
  elseif session("Com")="8" then
...
 
what's the problem in request.querystring()...
 
thankx.
 
N Jai Sankar 
India.



		
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From Micha.Schopman at modernmedia.nl  Fri Oct  7 06:27:00 2005
From: Micha.Schopman at modernmedia.nl (Micha Schopman)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:27:00 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Request.querystring type mismatch problem
Message-ID: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE1E0@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>

Watch your code carefully,
 
You are doing an assignment, not a comparison. 
 
Micha Schopman 
Project Manager
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort 
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren
de interactie met uw doelgroep. 
Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
________________________________

From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu
[mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] On Behalf Of Jai Sankar N
Sent: vrijdag 7 oktober 2005 10:36
To: javascript at LaTech.edu
Subject: [Javascript] Request.querystring type mismatch problem
 
Hi all
 
I'm passing information from one asp page to another asp page. it is
always fine. but i get type mismatch error. actully i'm passing number
but it gives error Type mismatch [String: Undefined].
 
this is my program flow.
 
un_com_det.asp
.
.
.
if request.querystring("lkcode")=1 then
      com=1
eselif request.querystring("lkcode")=2 then
     com=2
....
...
..
 
 
in Imageupload.asp file.
 
i'm checking the querystring values
if request.querystring("com")="1" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\About_"
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="2" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Trust_"
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="6" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Faq_"  
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="7" then
    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Tour_"
  elseif request.querystring("Com")="8" then
end if
 
 
but i'm using session instead of request.querystring it is working fine.

 
if trim(session("com"))="1" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\About_"
  elseif session("Com")="2" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Trust_"
  elseif session("Com")="6" then
   fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Faq_"  
  elseif session("Com")="7" then
    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Tour_"
  elseif session("Com")="8" then
...
 
what's the problem in request.querystring()...
 
thankx.
 
N Jai Sankar 
India.
 
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From leeu at cfl.rr.com  Fri Oct  7 07:54:54 2005
From: leeu at cfl.rr.com (Lee Underwood)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:54:54 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <01be01c5cb19$ec92ed00$e9882ec2@ic7g>
References: <000c01c5cae4$e63e3d40$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse>
	<01be01c5cb19$ec92ed00$e9882ec2@ic7g>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051007085155.03292d70@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>

I'm a little concerned here Tim.

The JavaScript Bible, 5th Edition (by Danny Goodman) is copyrighted. The 
link that you gave is to a PDF version of the book (with several extra 
chapters) that is on the CD that comes with the book when it is purchased. 
It's kind of like making a copy of the book and giving it away, isn't it?

Lee


On 10/7/05 04:26 AM, SkyScanner wrote:
........................................................
>Try this:
>
><http://www05.megaupload.com/files/9967fb183ea79d925697c8f7547829f6/John>http://www05.megaupload.com/files/9967fb183ea79d925697c8f7547829f6/John 
>Wiley & Sons - JavaScript Bible, 5th Ed (2004).pdf
>
>The above link should be all on one line. Its 24.2MB so a Download Manager 
>would be useful.
>
>Its a great resource - thanks for sharing.
>
>Tim in Ireland.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:peter at brunone.com>Peter Brunone
>To: <mailto:javascript at LaTech.edu>'[JavaScript List]'
>Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:14 AM
>Subject: RE: [Javascript] DOM book
>
>
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From wonsil at 4m-ent.com  Fri Oct  7 08:11:52 2005
From: wonsil at 4m-ent.com (Mark Wonsil)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:11:52 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051007085155.03292d70@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001801c5cb40$afa7ea90$7b01a8c0@WONSILT42>

> The JavaScript Bible, 5th Edition (by Danny Goodman) is copyrighted. The
> link that you gave is to a PDF version of the book (with several extra
> chapters) that is on the CD that comes with the book when it is purchased.
> It's kind of like making a copy of the book and giving it away, isn't it?

Lee is correct. At the end of the book/pdf is the copyright page and it
specifically allows the owner to backup the file but not to make copies for
others. I have deleted the file from my system. Thanks Lee.

Mark W.



From flavio at economisa.com.br  Fri Oct  7 08:19:30 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:19:30 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] Request.querystring type mismatch problem
In-Reply-To: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE1E0@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
References: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE1E0@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
Message-ID: <434675E2.2000006@economisa.com.br>

Let me be the boring guy this time:

I believe Micha has found the problem, but next time send it to an .ASP list, ok?

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br


Micha Schopman wrote:

> Watch your code carefully,
>
>  
>
> You are doing an assignment, not a comparison.
>
>  
>
> Micha Schopman
> Project Manager
>
> Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren 
> de interactie met uw doelgroep.
> Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor 
> meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu 
> [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jai Sankar N
> *Sent:* vrijdag 7 oktober 2005 10:36
> *To:* javascript at LaTech.edu
> *Subject:* [Javascript] Request.querystring type mismatch problem
>
>  
>
> Hi all
>
>  
>
> I'm passing information from one asp page to another asp page. it is 
> always fine. but i get type mismatch error. actully i'm passing number 
> but it gives error Type mismatch [String: Undefined].
>
>  
>
> this is my program flow.
>
>  
>
> un_com_det.asp
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
> if request.querystring("lkcode")=1 then
>
>       com=1
>
> eselif request.querystring("lkcode")=2 then
>
>      com=2
>
> ....
>
> ...
>
> ..
>
>  
>
>  
>
> in Imageupload.asp file.
>
>  
>
> i'm checking the querystring values
>
> if request.querystring("com")="1" then
>    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\About_"
>   elseif request.querystring("Com")="2" then
>    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Trust_"
>   elseif request.querystring("Com")="6" then
>    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Faq_"  
>   elseif request.querystring("Com")="7" then
>     fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Tour_"
>   elseif request.querystring("Com")="8" then
> end if
>
>  
>
>  
>
> but i'm using session instead of request.querystring it is working fine.
>
>  
>
> if trim(session("com"))="1" then
>    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\About_"
>   elseif session("Com")="2" then
>    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Trust_"
>   elseif session("Com")="6" then
>    fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Faq_"  
>   elseif session("Com")="7" then
>     fld_nm="/Common\Temp\Tour_"
>   elseif session("Com")="8" then
> ...
>
>  
>
> what's the problem in request.querystring()...
>
>  
>
> thankx.
>
>  
>
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From skyscanner at eircom.net  Fri Oct  7 09:09:19 2005
From: skyscanner at eircom.net (SkyScanner)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:09:19 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
References: <000c01c5cae4$e63e3d40$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse><01be01c5cb19$ec92ed00$e9882ec2@ic7g>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20051007085155.03292d70@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <008d01c5cb48$b7b7ff60$b6882ec2@ic7g>

Nothing to do with me - its not my upload. I was purely passing on the URL that appeared at the upload site when all the advertising stuff had passed by, for someone who had problems with the site. Don't have the original message any more, so can't remember who it was, or who gave the first link. Perhaps they'd like to comment where this upload came from, and whether it is legal...

Tim in Ireland.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lee Underwood 
  To: [JavaScript List] 
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Javascript] DOM book


  I'm a little concerned here Tim.

  The JavaScript Bible, 5th Edition (by Danny Goodman) is copyrighted. The link that you gave is to a PDF version of the book (with several extra chapters) that is on the CD that comes with the book when it is purchased. It's kind of like making a copy of the book and giving it away, isn't it?

  Lee


  On 10/7/05 04:26 AM, SkyScanner wrote:
  ........................................................ 

    Try this:
     
    http://www05.megaupload.com/files/9967fb183ea79d925697c8f7547829f6/John Wiley & Sons - JavaScript Bible, 5th Ed (2004).pdf
     
    The above link should be all on one line. Its 24.2MB so a Download Manager would be useful.
     
    Its a great resource - thanks for sharing.
     
    Tim in Ireland.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Peter Brunone 

      To: '[JavaScript List]' 

      Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:14 AM

      Subject: RE: [Javascript] DOM book




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From merchant at LATECH.EDU  Fri Oct  7 11:25:17 2005
From: merchant at LATECH.EDU (David Merchant)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:25:17 -0500
Subject: ADMIN (Re: [Javascript] Request.querystring type mismatch
  problem)
In-Reply-To: <434675E2.2000006@economisa.com.br>
References: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE1E0@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
	<669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE1E0@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20051007112120.03a4bf88@mail.latech.edu>

At 10:19 AM 10/7/2005 -0300, you wrote:
>Let me be the boring guy this time:
>
>I believe Micha has found the problem, but next time send it to an .ASP 
>list, ok?

Aye. This list has close to a thousand members, so even more important to 
keep the list on topic. It is understandably tempting to ask OT questions 
here, as there are a lot of very helpful, patient, knowledgeable folk on 
the list, but we do have to stay on topic.

Thanks,
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  8 11:03:55 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:55 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051007085155.03292d70@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  8 11:57:32 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 09:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F9510872066F61E6DB5DDEA8870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20051008165732.73097.qmail@web51115.mail.yahoo.com>

Warez is not a good idea, neither are ebookz.

For me, open source cured the warez problem, copyleft
and creative commons is curing the ebookz "problem".

If you don't want to buy it, don't read it, only read
copyleft/creative commons material.

If you do use the copyrighted stuff. The author(s)
have a fundamental right to collect on it. The rest is
ethics as to whether or not you pay for it.



Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


		
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From harvey.ramer at designdelineations.com  Sat Oct  8 12:10:57 2005
From: harvey.ramer at designdelineations.com (Harvey A. Ramer)
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 13:10:57 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
References: <20051008165732.73097.qmail@web51115.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005801c5cc2b$436241a0$2e01a8c0@hewlettsqusv2q>

>From my limited experience with DOM books, this one seems very good: 
http://www.sitepoint.com/books/dhtml1/

- Harvey Ramer
http://www.designdelineations.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Ettinger" <apwebdesign at yahoo.com>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Javascript] DOM book


Warez is not a good idea, neither are ebookz.

For me, open source cured the warez problem, copyleft
and creative commons is curing the ebookz "problem".

If you don't want to buy it, don't read it, only read
copyleft/creative commons material.

If you do use the copyrighted stuff. The author(s)
have a fundamental right to collect on it. The rest is
ethics as to whether or not you pay for it.



Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com



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From leeu at cfl.rr.com  Sun Oct  9 00:46:13 2005
From: leeu at cfl.rr.com (Lee Underwood)
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 01:46:13 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F9510872066F61E6DB5DDEA8870@phx.gbl>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20051007085155.03292d70@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
	<BAY19-F9510872066F61E6DB5DDEA8870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051009013333.039130e0@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>

Troy,

The link was for a download of the entire book, including several bonus 
chapters, which is illegal, no matter what the reasons. The way to check 
out the book is to go look at it in a book store. To share the download is 
illegal, and it puts an undue legal burden on the owners of this list. It's 
just like file sharing with music. It doesn't matter that the intention was 
for someone to review the book. It's illegal, plain and simple.

To quote from the End-User License Agreement, "You may make only one copy 
of the Software for backup or archival purposes.... You may not copy or 
reproduce the Software through a LAN or other network system or through any 
computer subscriber system or bulletin-board system."

I don't think any of us wants to get involved in copyright violations.

Lee



On 10/8/05 12:03 PM, Troy III Ajnej wrote:
........................................................

>From: Lee Underwood <mailto:leeu at cfl.rr.com>leeu at cfl.rr.com
>
>I'm a little concerned here Tim.
>
>The JavaScript Bible, 5th Edition (by Danny Goodman) is copyrighted. The 
>link that you gave is to a PDF version of the book (with several extra 
>chapters) that is on the CD that comes with the book when it is purchased. 
>It's kind of like making a copy of the book and giving it away, isn't it?
>
>I guess I'm getting a litle concerned too Lee :), -this book proposal was 
>a good one, but how do you know if it is a good one if you haven't seen 
>it? The link was provided for the potential costumer(s) to rewiew before 
>purchasing the hardcopy that ships with the extras. So if you like it, you 
>will buy it. But if not, you may delete it on your own. -After all, the 
>majority will accept this post as advertising this book?!
>
>  SkyScanner wrote:
>........................................................
>Try this:
>
><http://www05.megaupload.com/files/9967fb183ea79d925697c8f7547829f6/John>http://www05.megaupload.com/files/9967fb183ea79d925697c8f7547829f6/John 
>Wiley & Sons - JavaScript Bible, 5th Ed (2004).pdf
>
>The above link should be all on one line. Its 24.2MB so a Download Manager 
>would be useful.
>
>Its a great resource - thanks for sharing.
>
>Tim in Ireland.
>
>True, it doesn't accept DM's but its 3x faster than other srvrs that do 
>accept multipart downloads. (But you can allways paste the link to your DM)
>
>I hope you all accept this post as a book proposal and the link provided 
>as an oportunity to evaluate before you buy.
>Troy III
>
>
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  9 09:25:26 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:25:26 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051009013333.039130e0@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
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From leeu at cfl.rr.com  Sun Oct  9 09:38:15 2005
From: leeu at cfl.rr.com (Lee Underwood)
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:38:15 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20051009013333.039130e0@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
	<BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051009103606.03318dc0@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>

Well, Troy, you don't have to be smart about it. If you want to break the 
law and put the list owner in legal jeopardy, go for it. I guess that's 
you're right.

Boy, this sure got out of hand!

Lee


On 10/9/05 10:25 AM, Troy III Ajnej wrote:
........................................................

>I believe you are right, no matter what I say. -Have you deleted your copy 
>of this book? -That's my hero. Somebody left this door open. I saw it 
>open, I told someone, someone broke into... Someone entered at his own risk.
>
>
>From: Lee Underwood <mailto:leeu at cfl.rr.com>leeu at cfl.rr.com
>
>I don't think any of us wants to get involved in copyright violations.
>
>Than, Please Don't.
>
>Troy III
>
>
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><http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2737??PS=47575>MSN Messenger Download today it's 
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  9 09:54:14 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:54:14 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
Message-ID: <BAY19-F12EAC048D270998BCBCF5BA8860@phx.gbl>

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From merchant at LATECH.EDU  Sun Oct  9 15:07:04 2005
From: merchant at LATECH.EDU (David Merchant)
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 15:07:04 -0500
Subject: ADMIN: All Read (Re: [Javascript] DOM book)
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051009013333.039130e0@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
References: <BAY19-F9510872066F61E6DB5DDEA8870@phx.gbl>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20051007085155.03292d70@pop-server.cfl.rr.com>
	<BAY19-F9510872066F61E6DB5DDEA8870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20051009143713.027aa110@mail.latech.edu>

My apologies, I got side-tracked for a couple of days and didn't catch this 
thread soon enough. This thread needs to end. Now.

When it comes to possible violations of ethics and/or laws, we all should, 
and the list in particular, err on the side of caution. Some may feel they 
have a strong argument as to why the situation isn't plain and simple, or 
etc; however this is not the place to debate such topics, there are other 
venues more appropriate (it is OT here). As for this list, it is plain and 
simple: we need to advocate strict adherence to the laws as they now stand. 
If you think they need to be changed, contact your legislator.

For those who didn't realize that the copyright for the material does not 
allow for sharing copies over the network, you've learned an important 
lesson, and please remove the download from your computer. Companies are 
getting aggressive about going after who the deem to be copyright violators.

Speaking of deleting posts, I will contact the System Admin here at Tech 
and have him at least delete the posts with the download link in it.

Again, this thread is over. If this thread continues I'll have to place 
those posters on moderation.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Regards,
David Merchant
List Admin



From rholcomb at holc.biz  Wed Oct 12 12:56:46 2005
From: rholcomb at holc.biz (Rick Holcomb)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:56:46 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Including one javascript file within another
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20051009143713.027aa110@mail.latech.edu>
Message-ID: <028801c5cf56$50593d90$c800a8c0@HOLC.BIZ>

I have a script file that I want to use as a variable script (will be
changed by the server).
I want to include that file in another javascript file.
The included file really only contains the definition of a variable.
How can I do this.

Contents of mainfile.js:

<!-- Begin
var swidth=270
var sheight=20
var sspeed=6
var wholemessage=''

<!-- include include.js here
<!-- this include defines the mainmessage variable

var wholemessage='<div>' + mainmessage </div>'

<!-- End


Contents of include.js
<!-- Begin
var mainmessage = 'main message goes here!'
<!-- End




From junado at junado.com  Wed Oct 12 13:10:16 2005
From: junado at junado.com (Julien Nadeau)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:10:16 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Including one javascript file within another
In-Reply-To: <028801c5cf56$50593d90$c800a8c0@HOLC.BIZ>
References: <028801c5cf56$50593d90$c800a8c0@HOLC.BIZ>
Message-ID: <3CFE4795-3FA5-4BA4-8907-EC038F97EBFD@junado.com>

There's 2 ways to do it.

The first one, which is probably the best one since you seem to have  
server scripting, is to use an "include" statement in the scripting  
language available to you (php or asp).

The other way would be to split your files in two, and use three  
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript" src="filepath">  
to include your first path, then your modified file, then the last  
part of your script.

Julien Nadeau
junado at junado.com

Le 05-10-12 ? 13:56, Rick Holcomb a ?crit :

> I have a script file that I want to use as a variable script (will be
> changed by the server).
> I want to include that file in another javascript file.
> The included file really only contains the definition of a variable.
> How can I do this.
>
> Contents of mainfile.js:
>
> <!-- Begin
> var swidth=270
> var sheight=20
> var sspeed=6
> var wholemessage=''
>
> <!-- include include.js here
> <!-- this include defines the mainmessage variable
>
> var wholemessage='<div>' + mainmessage </div>'
>
> <!-- End
>
>
> Contents of include.js
> <!-- Begin
> var mainmessage = 'main message goes here!'
> <!-- End
>
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From BConner at huntsvilletx.gov  Wed Oct 12 17:59:22 2005
From: BConner at huntsvilletx.gov (Barry Conner)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:59:22 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] Font size control bar
Message-ID: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E720@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>

I've created the following little view control bar which I designed to display in a frames navigation window for my HTML-based application interface.  The frame is generated as a popup to exclude all of the undesirable toolbar & status bar overhead.
 
The actual font manipulation here is handled via a set of JS & CSS files (as posted at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont )
 
HERES THE QUESTION:  This is intended as a mere view control bar, so how might I script the fontsize controls to act on the main frame rather than on itself???
 
Thanks for any thoughts you might have on a solution!
 
Barry
 
<!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->
<form name="font_select" action="GET">
     <table align="center" width="100%" location="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules=cols frame=below border="1" margins="0">
          <tr>
               <td width="25%">
                    <strong>
                    View Control:
                    </strong>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.back()"><small>&nbsp;&nbsp;Back&nbsp;&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.forward()"><small>Forward</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizedown();"
                    value=" font - " />
                    <small>Smaller Font</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizereset()" />
                    <small>&nbsp;Reset Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizeup();"
                    value=" font + " />
                    <small>&nbsp;Larger Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
          </tr>
     </table>
     <hr />
</form>
<!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->



From BConner at huntsvilletx.gov  Wed Oct 12 18:00:20 2005
From: BConner at huntsvilletx.gov (Barry Conner)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:00:20 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
Message-ID: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E721@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>

P.S. For Clarification: The popup window is a frames window.  The control bar is displayed in one of the frames just below the header frame.
 
Barry

________________________________

From: Barry Conner
Sent: Wed 2005-10-12 5:59 PM
To: Javascript at LaTech.edu
Subject: Font size control bar


I've created the following little view control bar which I designed to display in a frames navigation window for my HTML-based application interface.  The frame is generated as a popup to exclude all of the undesirable toolbar & status bar overhead.
 
The actual font manipulation here is handled via a set of JS & CSS files (as posted at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont )
 
HERES THE QUESTION:  This is intended as a mere view control bar, so how might I script the fontsize controls to act on the main frame rather than on itself???
 
Thanks for any thoughts you might have on a solution!
 
Barry
 
<!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->
<form name="font_select" action="GET">
     <table align="center" width="100%" location="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules=cols frame=below border="1" margins="0">
          <tr>
               <td width="25%">
                    <strong>
                    View Control:
                    </strong>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.back()"><small>&nbsp;&nbsp;Back&nbsp;&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.forward()"><small>Forward</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizedown();"
                    value=" font - " />
                    <small>Smaller Font</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizereset()" />
                    <small>&nbsp;Reset Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizeup();"
                    value=" font + " />
                    <small>&nbsp;Larger Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
          </tr>
     </table>
     <hr />
</form>
<!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->



From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 04:56:54 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:56:54 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
References: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E721@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c5cfdc$72734980$1400a8c0@persistenzl1>

Hi Barry,

If I understand right you must do something like this.
You should includes the js file called "styleswitcher.js" in the source of 
the file you will like to change the font and not in the framed popup like 
that you don't have to do any change to the javascript function inside this 
file.
Now in your frames popup window (this are 2 word defining evil) you must 
call the function first by referencing the main window and the opener who I 
guess will be something like this

top.window.opener.fontsizedown() I have not tested this but it should work

That way you actually calling the function from the page you will like the 
font to be changed.

ps: if you trying to improve accessibility with this feature, I'm sorry to 
tell you that you are shooting yourself in the foot because 1) the popup 
aproach is really unfriendly and not accessible 2) frameset are not 
recommended when building almost anything and specially not when building 
accessibility functionnality. 3) I see a lot of this kind of functionnality 
implemented in site but the best so far was in this site 
http://www.dover.gov.uk/textsize.asp they actually trying to educate the 
user by discovering the functionnality in there browser.

Regards

Laurent



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: <Javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:00 AM
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


P.S. For Clarification: The popup window is a frames window.  The control 
bar is displayed in one of the frames just below the header frame.

Barry

________________________________

From: Barry Conner
Sent: Wed 2005-10-12 5:59 PM
To: Javascript at LaTech.edu
Subject: Font size control bar


I've created the following little view control bar which I designed to 
display in a frames navigation window for my HTML-based application 
interface.  The frame is generated as a popup to exclude all of the 
undesirable toolbar & status bar overhead.

The actual font manipulation here is handled via a set of JS & CSS files (as 
posted at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont )

HERES THE QUESTION:  This is intended as a mere view control bar, so how 
might I script the fontsize controls to act on the main frame rather than on 
itself???

Thanks for any thoughts you might have on a solution!

Barry

<!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->
<form name="font_select" action="GET">
     <table align="center" width="100%" location="0" cellspacing="0" 
cellpadding="4" rules=cols frame=below border="1" margins="0">
          <tr>
               <td width="25%">
                    <strong>
                    View Control:
                    </strong>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" 
onclick="javascript:history.back()"><small>&nbsp;&nbsp;Back&nbsp;&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" 
onclick="javascript:history.forward()"><small>Forward</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" 
onclick="javascript:fontsizedown();"
                    value=" font - " />
                    <small>Smaller Font</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" 
onclick="javascript:fontsizereset()" />
                    <small>&nbsp;Reset Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizeup();"
                    value=" font + " />
                    <small>&nbsp;Larger Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
          </tr>
     </table>
     <hr />
</form>
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From flavio at economisa.com.br  Thu Oct 13 07:50:02 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:50:02 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] Font size control bar
In-Reply-To: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E720@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>
References: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E720@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>
Message-ID: <434E57FA.2000807@economisa.com.br>


You also copied the styleswitcher.js and all the .css files, right?

Original:
================================================================================
function setActiveStyleSheet(title) {
  var i, a, main;
    for(i=0; (a = *document*.getElementsByTagName("link")[i]); i++) {
    if(a.getAttribute("rel").indexOf("style") != -1 && a.getAttribute("title")) {
      a.disabled = true;
      if(a.getAttribute("title") == title) a.disabled = false;
    }
  }
}
=================================================================================

Then you'll have to change all references from document to parent.document.

PS.: Watch out for popup-blockers.


Hope to Help,

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br



Barry Conner wrote:

>I've created the following little view control bar which I designed to display in a frames navigation window for my HTML-based application interface.  The frame is generated as a popup to exclude all of the undesirable toolbar & status bar overhead.
> 
>The actual font manipulation here is handled via a set of JS & CSS files (as posted at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont )
> 
>HERES THE QUESTION:  This is intended as a mere view control bar, so how might I script the fontsize controls to act on the main frame rather than on itself???
> 
>Thanks for any thoughts you might have on a solution!
> 
>Barry
> 
><!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->
><form name="font_select" action="GET">
>     <table align="center" width="100%" location="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules=cols frame=below border="1" margins="0">
>          <tr>
>               <td width="25%">
>                    <strong>
>                    View Control:
>                    </strong>
>               </td>
>               <td align="center">
>                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.back()"><small>&nbsp;&nbsp;Back&nbsp;&nbsp;</small></button>
>               </td>
>               <td align="center">
>                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.forward()"><small>Forward</small></button>
>               </td>
>               <td align="center">
>                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizedown();"
>                    value=" font - " />
>                    <small>Smaller Font</small></button>
>               </td>
>               <td align="center">
>                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizereset()" />
>                    <small>&nbsp;Reset Font&nbsp;</small></button>
>               </td>
>               <td align="center">
>                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizeup();"
>                    value=" font + " />
>                    <small>&nbsp;Larger Font&nbsp;</small></button>
>               </td>
>          </tr>
>     </table>
>     <hr />
></form>
><!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->
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From flavio at economisa.com.br  Thu Oct 13 07:52:21 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:52:21 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] Including one javascript file within another
In-Reply-To: <3CFE4795-3FA5-4BA4-8907-EC038F97EBFD@junado.com>
References: <028801c5cf56$50593d90$c800a8c0@HOLC.BIZ>
	<3CFE4795-3FA5-4BA4-8907-EC038F97EBFD@junado.com>
Message-ID: <434E5885.6040401@economisa.com.br>

Or create an invisible iframe and read it's contents or try XMLHTTP 
functions.

But I'd go for the server side include though.

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br


Julien Nadeau wrote:

> There's 2 ways to do it.
>
> The first one, which is probably the best one since you seem to have 
> server scripting, is to use an "include" statement in the scripting 
> language available to you (php or asp).
>
> The other way would be to split your files in two, and use three 
> <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript" src="filepath"> 
> to include your first path, then your modified file, then the last 
> part of your script.
>
>
> Julien Nadeau
>
> junado at junado.com <mailto:junado at junado.com>
>
>
> Le 05-10-12 ? 13:56, Rick Holcomb a ?crit :
>
>> I have a script file that I want to use as a variable script (will be
>> changed by the server).
>> I want to include that file in another javascript file.
>> The included file really only contains the definition of a variable.
>> How can I do this.
>>
>> Contents of mainfile.js:
>>
>> <!-- Begin
>> var swidth=270
>> var sheight=20
>> var sspeed=6
>> var wholemessage=''
>>
>> <!-- include include.js here
>> <!-- this include defines the mainmessage variable
>>
>> var wholemessage='<div>' + mainmessage </div>'
>>
>> <!-- End
>>
>>
>> Contents of include.js
>> <!-- Begin
>> var mainmessage = 'main message goes here!'
>> <!-- End
>>
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From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 09:07:10 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:07:10 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Font size control bar
References: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E720@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>
	<434E57FA.2000807@economisa.com.br>
Message-ID: <004501c5cfff$6a302f40$1400a8c0@persistenzl1>

Hi Flavio,

I think if you change the references from document to parent.document you will not make the style change in the opener window but only in the popup !

Barry If you look at the logic of the code you are using you must includes the css files and js file into the window where you like to change the font size because if you includes the css files into the popup and try to enable or disable the one you want you will only make the font changing in the popup window.
If I found 5 min I do the implementation for you.

Laurent
  

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Flavio Gomes 
  To: [JavaScript List] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Javascript] Font size control bar



  You also copied the styleswitcher.js and all the .css files, right?


Original:
================================================================================
function setActiveStyleSheet(title) {
  var i, a, main;
    for(i=0; (a = document.getElementsByTagName("link")[i]); i++) {
    if(a.getAttribute("rel").indexOf("style") != -1 && a.getAttribute("title")) {
      a.disabled = true;
      if(a.getAttribute("title") == title) a.disabled = false;
    }
  }
}
=================================================================================

Then you'll have to change all references from document to parent.document.

PS.: Watch out for popup-blockers.

Hope to Help,


-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br

  Barry Conner wrote: 
I've created the following little view control bar which I designed to display in a frames navigation window for my HTML-based application interface.  The frame is generated as a popup to exclude all of the undesirable toolbar & status bar overhead.
 
The actual font manipulation here is handled via a set of JS & CSS files (as posted at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont )
 
HERES THE QUESTION:  This is intended as a mere view control bar, so how might I script the fontsize controls to act on the main frame rather than on itself???
 
Thanks for any thoughts you might have on a solution!
 
Barry
 
<!--~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-->
<form name="font_select" action="GET">
     <table align="center" width="100%" location="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" rules=cols frame=below border="1" margins="0">
          <tr>
               <td width="25%">
                    <strong>
                    View Control:
                    </strong>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.back()"><small>&nbsp;&nbsp;Back&nbsp;&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:history.forward()"><small>Forward</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizedown();"
                    value=" font - " />
                    <small>Smaller Font</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizereset()" />
                    <small>&nbsp;Reset Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
               <td align="center">
                    <button type="button" onclick="javascript:fontsizeup();"
                    value=" font + " />
                    <small>&nbsp;Larger Font&nbsp;</small></button>
               </td>
          </tr>
     </table>
     <hr />
</form>
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From BConner at huntsvilletx.gov  Thu Oct 13 09:41:16 2005
From: BConner at huntsvilletx.gov (Barry Conner)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
Message-ID: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E724@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>

I appreciate all of your comments and help with this.
 
I hope to clarify what I'm trying to do.  (I definitely agree with Laurent's assessment of popup windows as evil - and Flavio, thanks for the reminder about popup blockers.)
 
This funtionality is intended for a software interface to be deployed on a LAN.  I'm just using HTML as the vehicle for it, so I don't want the users to have the browser distractions.  Maybe this screenshot will help to clarify the situation:
 
     http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg <http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg> 
 
Again, thanks much!!!
 
Barry


From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 10:12:38 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:12:38 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
References: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E724@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>
Message-ID: <006201c5d008$951f4f20$1400a8c0@persistenzl1>

Hi Barry,

Please found below the examples I put up together, I hope this is going to 
help
http://www.expressive-media.co.uk/examples/styeSwitcher/FontSizes.htm

Regards Laurent

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: <Javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


I appreciate all of your comments and help with this.

I hope to clarify what I'm trying to do.  (I definitely agree with Laurent's 
assessment of popup windows as evil - and Flavio, thanks for the reminder 
about popup blockers.)

This funtionality is intended for a software interface to be deployed on a 
LAN.  I'm just using HTML as the vehicle for it, so I don't want the users 
to have the browser distractions.  Maybe this screenshot will help to 
clarify the situation:

     http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg 
<http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg>

Again, thanks much!!!

Barry
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From BConner at huntsvilletx.gov  Thu Oct 13 12:03:06 2005
From: BConner at huntsvilletx.gov (Barry Conner)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:03:06 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
Message-ID: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E725@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>

Laurent,
 
Thank you for that.  I went ahead and uploaded the essential files (& directory structure) to Geocities.  Unfortunately, it won't run from that location, but if you downloaded the structure, you can see exactly how it was intended to function.
 
The font resizing works very well at doing what it is designed to.  The only problem is that the page with the resize buttons acts on itself.  I was needing to have them act on the main window, which will of course change as users navigate the application interface.
 
Thanks!
Barry
 
Here's a filetree of the posting:
 
 index.html - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/index.html" )
 index.htm
 home.htm
   |
   +---_library - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/" )
   |   |
   |   +---_scripts - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/_scripts/" )
   |   |       large.css
   |   |       medium.css
   |   |       small.css
   |   |       style.css
   |   |       styleswitcher.js
   |   |       x-small.css
   |   |       xx-small.css
   |   |
   |   \---_style - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/_style/" )
   |           asbuiltoperations.css
   |
   \---_main - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_main/" )
           controlbar.htm
           header_frame.htm
           main.htm
           navbar_frame.htm
 

________________________________

From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu on behalf of Laurent Muchacho
Sent: Thu 2005-10-13 10:12 AM
To: [JavaScript List]
Subject: Re: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar



Hi Barry,

Please found below the examples I put up together, I hope this is going to
help
http://www.expressive-media.co.uk/examples/styeSwitcher/FontSizes.htm

Regards Laurent

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: <Javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


I appreciate all of your comments and help with this.

I hope to clarify what I'm trying to do.  (I definitely agree with Laurent's
assessment of popup windows as evil - and Flavio, thanks for the reminder
about popup blockers.)

This funtionality is intended for a software interface to be deployed on a
LAN.  I'm just using HTML as the vehicle for it, so I don't want the users
to have the browser distractions.  Maybe this screenshot will help to
clarify the situation:

     http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg
<http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg>

Again, thanks much!!!

Barry
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From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 16:53:46 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:53:46 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
References: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E725@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>
Message-ID: <00be01c5d040$970049b0$1400a8c0@persistenzl1>

Hi Barry,

I can't seems to make it work from your server.
Send me a zip with the file if you want and will try to make it work.

Mainly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


Laurent,

Thank you for that.  I went ahead and uploaded the essential files (& 
directory structure) to Geocities.  Unfortunately, it won't run from that 
location, but if you downloaded the structure, you can see exactly how it 
was intended to function.

The font resizing works very well at doing what it is designed to.  The only 
problem is that the page with the resize buttons acts on itself.  I was 
needing to have them act on the main window, which will of course change as 
users navigate the application interface.

Thanks!
Barry

Here's a filetree of the posting:

 index.html - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/index.html" )
 index.htm
 home.htm
   |
   +---_library - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/" )
   |   |
   |   +---_scripts - ( 
"http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/_scripts/" )
   |   |       large.css
   |   |       medium.css
   |   |       small.css
   |   |       style.css
   |   |       styleswitcher.js
   |   |       x-small.css
   |   |       xx-small.css
   |   |
   |   \---_style - ( 
"http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/_style/" )
   |           asbuiltoperations.css
   |
   \---_main - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_main/" )
           controlbar.htm
           header_frame.htm
           main.htm
           navbar_frame.htm


________________________________

From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu on behalf of Laurent Muchacho
Sent: Thu 2005-10-13 10:12 AM
To: [JavaScript List]
Subject: Re: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar



Hi Barry,

Please found below the examples I put up together, I hope this is going to
help
http://www.expressive-media.co.uk/examples/styeSwitcher/FontSizes.htm

Regards Laurent

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: <Javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


I appreciate all of your comments and help with this.

I hope to clarify what I'm trying to do.  (I definitely agree with Laurent's
assessment of popup windows as evil - and Flavio, thanks for the reminder
about popup blockers.)

This funtionality is intended for a software interface to be deployed on a
LAN.  I'm just using HTML as the vehicle for it, so I don't want the users
to have the browser distractions.  Maybe this screenshot will help to
clarify the situation:

     http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg
<http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg>

Again, thanks much!!!

Barry
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From ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch  Fri Oct 14 08:04:13 2005
From: ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch (OIivier Grossmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:04:13 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] 2 Daten miteinander vergleichen
Message-ID: <4330F9AB000AAC63@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>

Hallo zusammen,

ich m?chte ?berpr?fen ob das 1. Datum fr?her ist als das 2. Datum

Habt ihr eine Idee wie ich das tun k?nnte?

Gruss Olivier







From ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch  Fri Oct 14 08:05:08 2005
From: ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch (OIivier Grossmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:05:08 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates
Message-ID: <4330F9AB000AAC8A@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>

Hello everybody,

i would like to validate/compare two dates. The first date should be earlier
than the second one.

Have you an idea?

Greet Olivier



From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 09:11:50 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:11:50 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates
References: <4330F9AB000AAC8A@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
Message-ID: <008801c5d0c9$39a86bb0$0200a8c0@persistenzl1>

Hi Olivier,

Found below the code describing how to check 2 dates.
The Variable "now" define the present time, the only thing you need to do is 
substract the date you wish to check and if the difference is a negative 
value then the date happen before.
I hope this help sorry my explanation is not really clear but I guess this 
is what you are looking for.

var now = new Date();
var yesterday = new Date(2005,09,13,00,00,00);
var tomorrow= new Date(2005,09,15,00,00,00);

alert('now : ' + now + '\nyesterday : '  +  yesterday + '\ntomorrow : ' + 
tomorrow);

alert((yesterday - now)+ '\n' + (tomorrow - now))

if((yesterday  - now)<0){

    alert('date tested as before now');

}


Laurent

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "OIivier Grossmann" <ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch>
To: <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates


> Hello everybody,
>
> i would like to validate/compare two dates. The first date should be 
> earlier
> than the second one.
>
> Have you an idea?
>
> Greet Olivier
>
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From nick at nickfitz.co.uk  Fri Oct 14 09:42:00 2005
From: nick at nickfitz.co.uk (Nick Fitzsimons)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:42:00 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates
In-Reply-To: <4330F9AB000AAC8A@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
References: <4330F9AB000AAC8A@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
Message-ID: <65162.193.195.164.58.1129300920.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk>

> Hello everybody,
>
> i would like to validate/compare two dates. The first date should be
> earlier
> than the second one.
>

Dates are represented internally as a 32-bit number, so

if (firstDate < secondDate) {
   // first date is earlier than second date
} else {
   // first date is equal to or later than second date
}

Note that this works to millisecond precision, so two dates that are the
same will be different if their times are different. In other words,

2005-10-15 15:00:00

is less than

2005-10-15 15:00:01

You can work around this, if necessary, by explicitly setting the times of
the Date objects, using setHour etcetera.

HTH,

Nick.
-- 
Nick Fitzsimons
http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/


From javascript at mattbarton.org  Fri Oct 14 09:46:15 2005
From: javascript at mattbarton.org (Matt Barton)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:46:15 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Setting the size/width of a select control.
Message-ID: <434FC4B7.2070407@mattbarton.org>

Hi,

Is there any way to dynamically control the size/width of a <select> 
control?  It seems to be something so simple, that I'm amazed I can't 
find anything in my books.

I hope I'm missing something staggeringly obvious ...

Thanks

Matt


From ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch  Fri Oct 14 10:19:48 2005
From: ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch (OIivier Grossmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:19:48 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates
In-Reply-To: <008801c5d0c9$39a86bb0$0200a8c0@persistenzl1>
Message-ID: <4330F9AB000ABF52@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>

Hello Laurent,

thanks for your explanation.
I have implemented your code example into my source successfully.

Thanks.

Greet Olivier

>-- Original-Nachricht --
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>To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Javascript] Compare two dates
>Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:11:50 +0100
>Reply-To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
>
>
>Hi Olivier,
>
>Found below the code describing how to check 2 dates.
>The Variable "now" define the present time, the only thing you need to do
>is 
>substract the date you wish to check and if the difference is a negative
>
>value then the date happen before.
>I hope this help sorry my explanation is not really clear but I guess this
>
>is what you are looking for.
>
>var now = new Date();
>var yesterday = new Date(2005,09,13,00,00,00);
>var tomorrow= new Date(2005,09,15,00,00,00);
>
>alert('now : ' + now + '\nyesterday : '  +  yesterday + '\ntomorrow : '
+
>
>tomorrow);
>
>alert((yesterday - now)+ '\n' + (tomorrow - now))
>
>if((yesterday  - now)<0){
>
>    alert('date tested as before now');
>
>}
>
>
>Laurent
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "OIivier Grossmann" <ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch>
>To: <javascript at LaTech.edu>
>Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:05 PM
>Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates
>
>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> i would like to validate/compare two dates. The first date should be 
>> earlier
>> than the second one.
>>
>> Have you an idea?
>>
>> Greet Olivier
>>
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From pp.koch at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 10:26:54 2005
From: pp.koch at gmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:26:54 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Compare two dates
In-Reply-To: <4330F9AB000AAC8A@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
References: <4330F9AB000AAC8A@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
Message-ID: <21e4a1280510140826j6b39158drba5583c7b1d7fc5a@mail.gmail.com>

> Hello everybody,
>
> i would like to validate/compare two dates. The first date should be earlier
> than the second one.
>
> Have you an idea?

By far the easiest way: make both dates milliseconds and compare them.
Milliseconds are the only simple way of comparing dates.

var date1 = new Date(whatever);
var date2 = new Date(whatever);

var date1Comp = date1.getTime(); // milliseconds
var date2Comp = date2.getTime();

if (date1Comp < date2Comp)
{
  // date 1 is earlier than date 2
}

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From judah-fc at t8design.com  Fri Oct 14 10:49:10 2005
From: judah-fc at t8design.com (Judah Frangipane)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:49:10 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] Setting the size/width of a select control.
In-Reply-To: <434FC4B7.2070407@mattbarton.org>
References: <434FC4B7.2070407@mattbarton.org>
Message-ID: <434FD376.9050304@t8design.com>

Hi Matt,

Set the style property. IE

< select name="select" style="width:800px" 
onClick="this.style.width='400px'" >
    < option >item 1< / option >
    < option >item 2< / option >
  < /select >

Then in javascript get a reference to the control and set the width again.

It's been a while since I've done this and I'm not at my home computer 
let me know if you need more help.

Judah

Matt Barton wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to dynamically control the size/width of a <select> 
> control?  It seems to be something so simple, that I'm amazed I can't 
> find anything in my books.
>
> I hope I'm missing something staggeringly obvious ...
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
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From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Fri Oct 14 10:58:29 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:58:29 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Setting the size/width of a select control.
References: <434FC4B7.2070407@mattbarton.org>
Message-ID: <00ed01c5d0d8$200132f0$0200a8c0@persistenzl1>

Hi Matt,

You can simply change the width of select by changing the width style value

document.getElementById('mySelect').style.width=100 + 'px';

Found more examples in the url below
http://www.expressive-media.co.uk/examples/form/select/size.htm

Regards

Laurent



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Barton" <javascript at mattbarton.org>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: [Javascript] Setting the size/width of a select control.


> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to dynamically control the size/width of a <select> 
> control?  It seems to be something so simple, that I'm amazed I can't find 
> anything in my books.
>
> I hope I'm missing something staggeringly obvious ...
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
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> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript 



From javascript at mattbarton.org  Fri Oct 14 11:02:23 2005
From: javascript at mattbarton.org (Matt Barton)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:02:23 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Setting the size/width of a select control.
In-Reply-To: <00ed01c5d0d8$200132f0$0200a8c0@persistenzl1>
References: <434FC4B7.2070407@mattbarton.org>
	<00ed01c5d0d8$200132f0$0200a8c0@persistenzl1>
Message-ID: <434FD68F.1020502@mattbarton.org>

Excellent, thanks very much.

Matt

Laurent Muchacho wrote:
> Hi Matt,
> 
> You can simply change the width of select by changing the width style value
> 
> document.getElementById('mySelect').style.width=100 + 'px';
> 
> Found more examples in the url below
> http://www.expressive-media.co.uk/examples/form/select/size.htm
> 
> Regards
> 
> Laurent
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Barton" 
> <javascript at mattbarton.org>
> To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:46 PM
> Subject: [Javascript] Setting the size/width of a select control.
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any way to dynamically control the size/width of a <select> 
>> control?  It seems to be something so simple, that I'm amazed I can't 
>> find anything in my books.
>>
>> I hope I'm missing something staggeringly obvious ...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Matt
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>> Javascript at LaTech.edu
>> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript 
> 
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From BConner at huntsvilletx.gov  Fri Oct 14 16:51:56 2005
From: BConner at huntsvilletx.gov (Barry Conner)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:51:56 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar
Message-ID: <9B3006CF6C51E4498BC82AEDC60ABED347E73B@SVRMAIL.cityofhuntsville.com>

Laurent.
 
Bad version ended up on website.  I've replaced it now, but this version doesn't work as well as the first did.  Craziness now: first click on "smaller" goes larger, but subsequent clicks work.  
 
Again, the problem I'm trying to resolve is getting the font selector to act on the "main_content" frame.
 
Thanks!
Barry
 

________________________________

From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu on behalf of Laurent Muchacho
Sent: Thu 2005-10-13 4:53 PM
To: [JavaScript List]
Subject: Re: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar



Hi Barry,

I can't seems to make it work from your server.
Send me a zip with the file if you want and will try to make it work.

Mainly

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


Laurent,

Thank you for that.  I went ahead and uploaded the essential files (&
directory structure) to Geocities.  Unfortunately, it won't run from that
location, but if you downloaded the structure, you can see exactly how it
was intended to function.

The font resizing works very well at doing what it is designed to.  The only
problem is that the page with the resize buttons acts on itself.  I was
needing to have them act on the main window, which will of course change as
users navigate the application interface.

Thanks!
Barry

Here's a filetree of the posting:

 index.html - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/index.html" )
 index.htm
 home.htm
   |
   +---_library - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/" )
   |   |
   |   +---_scripts - (
"http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/_scripts/" )
   |   |       large.css
   |   |       medium.css
   |   |       small.css
   |   |       style.css
   |   |       styleswitcher.js
   |   |       x-small.css
   |   |       xx-small.css
   |   |
   |   \---_style - (
"http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_library/_style/" )
   |           asbuiltoperations.css
   |
   \---_main - ( "http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/_main/" )
           controlbar.htm
           header_frame.htm
           main.htm
           navbar_frame.htm


________________________________

From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu on behalf of Laurent Muchacho
Sent: Thu 2005-10-13 10:12 AM
To: [JavaScript List]
Subject: Re: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar



Hi Barry,

Please found below the examples I put up together, I hope this is going to
help
http://www.expressive-media.co.uk/examples/styeSwitcher/FontSizes.htm

Regards Laurent

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Conner" <BConner at huntsvilletx.gov>
To: <Javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [Javascript] RE: Font size control bar


I appreciate all of your comments and help with this.

I hope to clarify what I'm trying to do.  (I definitely agree with Laurent's
assessment of popup windows as evil - and Flavio, thanks for the reminder
about popup blockers.)

This funtionality is intended for a software interface to be deployed on a
LAN.  I'm just using HTML as the vehicle for it, so I don't want the users
to have the browser distractions.  Maybe this screenshot will help to
clarify the situation:

     http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg
<http://www.geocities.com/barryc_mailbox/AsbuiltOperstionsView_20051013.jpg>

Again, thanks much!!!

Barry
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From pnjaisan at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 07:39:06 2005
From: pnjaisan at yahoo.com (Jai Sankar N)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 05:39:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] Page refresh only once - reg
Message-ID: <20051015123906.89765.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
 
i have a web form. that form has addition , deletion , edition and list button. my programs are working fine but when i try to edit the record while previous content are loaded. each time i shoud manualy refresh the page and continue  and so on.
 
my code is...
 
<script language=javascript>
function pagereload()
{
      window.location.reload();
}
</script>
 
 
...
...
...
 
that function called in body onLoad event
 
<body onLoad="pagereload()">
..
..
.
.
</body>
 
this function is working but it will do in loop.
 
advance thanks for yours kind reply
 
N.Jai Sankar,
India



		
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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 15 11:39:25 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] Page refresh only once - reg
In-Reply-To: <20051015123906.89765.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051015163925.6242.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com>

> my code is...
>  
> <script language=javascript>
> function pagereload()
> {
>       window.location.reload();
> }
> </script>

> that function called in body onLoad event
>  
> <body onLoad="pagereload()">
>  
> this function is working but it will do in loop.

window.location.pagereload(); <-- is this what you
mean?


If so, you're calling it recursively.

All you need is to put this at the top of your js
file:

window.onload = init();

function init()
{
   //initialize form
}


Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
blog: http://www.chovy.com


From pnjaisan at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 17 02:52:13 2005
From: pnjaisan at yahoo.com (Jai Sankar N)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:52:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] Re:Refresh the page only once-reg
Message-ID: <20051017075213.93320.qmail@web50313.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Anthony Ettinger,
 
i'm put the my function in top of the script and it's called in only one location but it is recursively running...
 
Jai Sankar N


		
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From Micha.Schopman at modernmedia.nl  Mon Oct 17 04:11:12 2005
From: Micha.Schopman at modernmedia.nl (Micha Schopman)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:11:12 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Re:Refresh the page only once-reg
Message-ID: <669F60D6099E75468FA74F2C4FBBA73F6DE354@mmaft01.modernmedia.local>

Because the function is invoked on each page reload. You could try
setting a cookie, and only reload if the cookie has not been set yet. Or
you can do a document.replace provided url parameters to notify the
script not to reload anymore, etc. 
Bottomline, the script needs to know if the current page is the result
of a reload. 
Micha Schopman 
Project Manager
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort 
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From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu
[mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] On Behalf Of Jai Sankar N
Sent: maandag 17 oktober 2005 8:52
To: javascript at LaTech.edu
Subject: [Javascript] Re:Refresh the page only once-reg
 
Hi Anthony Ettinger,
 
i'm put the my function in top of the script and it's called in only one
location but it is recursively running...
 
Jai Sankar N
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From flavio at economisa.com.br  Mon Oct 17 07:29:25 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:29:25 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] Page refresh only once - reg
In-Reply-To: <20051015163925.6242.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051015163925.6242.qmail@web51104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43539925.60802@economisa.com.br>


  No, Anthony, he is refreshing the page on the *onload* event. Yes, 
that's a loop..

  Instead of using *reload()* couldnt you try to use 
*window.location.href=window.location.href+ '?reloaded=yes'*
  Then you check the queryString for the *reloaded* var before 
*reload()'ing.*


-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br


Anthony Ettinger wrote:

>>my code is...
>> 
>><script language=javascript>
>>function pagereload()
>>{
>>      window.location.reload();
>>}
>></script>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>that function called in body onLoad event
>> 
>><body onLoad="pagereload()">
>> 
>>this function is working but it will do in loop.
>>    
>>
>
>window.location.pagereload(); <-- is this what you
>mean?
>
>
>If so, you're calling it recursively.
>
>All you need is to put this at the top of your js
>file:
>
>window.onload = init();
>
>function init()
>{
>   //initialize form
>}
>
>
>Anthony Ettinger
>ph: (408) 656-2473
>blog: http://www.chovy.com
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 17 10:42:15 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:42:15 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Re:Refresh the page only once-reg
In-Reply-To: <20051017075213.93320.qmail@web50313.mail.yahoo.com>
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From stevec at topdogstrategy.com  Mon Oct 17 21:40:35 2005
From: stevec at topdogstrategy.com (Steve Clason)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:40:35 -0600
Subject: [Javascript] Firefox and setAttribute
Message-ID: <435460A3.9090802@topdogstrategy.com>

Hi,

Can anyone point me to a good source that explains Firefox's problem 
handling of setAttribute? I keep running into problems and would like to 
take the time to understand what's going on.

Right now, I have this:

<code>
var slide = document.createElement("img");
slide.setAttribute("src","images/image.gif");
slide.setAttribute("alt","this is alt text");
slide.setAttribute("id","slide");
document.appendChild(slide);
</code>

The image element is placed and has an id and alt text attributes, but 
no src.

If I try:

<code>
slide.src = "images/image.gif";
</code>

I get the same thing--no image, but id and alt text.

Both techniques work in IE and Opera so I'm pretty sure this is a FF 
peculiarity.

I'll take all the help I can get on this.

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Steve Clason




From schalk at volume4.com  Tue Oct 18 05:12:13 2005
From: schalk at volume4.com (Schalk Neethling)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:12:13 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Firefox and setAttribute
In-Reply-To: <435460A3.9090802@topdogstrategy.com>
References: <435460A3.9090802@topdogstrategy.com>
Message-ID: <4354CA7D.4020005@volume4.com>

Steve

Not sure if it will work, you might have even tried it but, have you 
tried a double forward slash?

Steve Clason wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can anyone point me to a good source that explains Firefox's problem 
> handling of setAttribute? I keep running into problems and would like 
> to take the time to understand what's going on.
>
> Right now, I have this:
>
> <code>
> var slide = document.createElement("img");
> slide.setAttribute("src","images/image.gif");
> slide.setAttribute("alt","this is alt text");
> slide.setAttribute("id","slide");
> document.appendChild(slide);
> </code>
>
> The image element is placed and has an id and alt text attributes, but 
> no src.
>
> If I try:
>
> <code>
> slide.src = "images/image.gif";
> </code>
>
> I get the same thing--no image, but id and alt text.
>
> Both techniques work in IE and Opera so I'm pretty sure this is a FF 
> peculiarity.
>
> I'll take all the help I can get on this.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>

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From inbox.js at jlfx.com  Tue Oct 18 05:34:16 2005
From: inbox.js at jlfx.com (jleonard)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:34:16 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] DOM book
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>


    How about being a stand up guy and just shut the door.

> Somebody left this door open. I saw it open, I told
> someone, someone broke into... Someone entered at his own risk.


From ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch  Tue Oct 18 07:33:15 2005
From: ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch (OIivier Grossmann)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:33:15 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Style Sheet in JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <4354CA7D.4020005@volume4.com>
Message-ID: <4330F9AB000C3608@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>

Hello,

how can I define a style in JavaScript??

Thanks for your help.

Greet Olivier



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 08:31:32 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:31:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] Style Sheet in JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <4330F9AB000C3608@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
Message-ID: <20051018133132.75992.qmail@web51114.mail.yahoo.com>

object.style.visibility = 'hidden';

(I believe that's it, you'll have to check the DOM
reference on mozdev).

--- OIivier Grossmann <ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> how can I define a style in JavaScript??
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Greet Olivier
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch  Tue Oct 18 08:52:34 2005
From: ol.grossmann at bluewin.ch (OIivier Grossmann)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:52:34 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Style Sheet in JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <43550AA6.3020506@economisa.com.br>
Message-ID: <4330F9AB000C4422@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>

Its okay, but I had the problem one hour ago that I have to declare a css
style in the JavaScript Code.
<script language="JavaScript">
 /* Here should be a style sheet declaration */
</script>
Thanks anyway.

Greet Olivier
>-- Original-Nachricht --
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:45:58 -0300
>From: Flavio Gomes <flavio at economisa.com.br>
>To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Javascript] Style Sheet in JavaScript
>Reply-To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
>
>
>You mean how to choose/change a document's stylesheet with JavaScript?
>Be a little bit more specific, ok?
>
>-- 
>Flavio Gomes
>flavio at economisa.com.br
>
>
>OIivier Grossmann wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>how can I define a style in JavaScript??
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Greet Olivier
>>
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From flavio at economisa.com.br  Tue Oct 18 09:45:58 2005
From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:45:58 -0300
Subject: [Javascript] Style Sheet in JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <4330F9AB000C3608@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
References: <4330F9AB000C3608@mssazhb-int.msg.bluewin.ch>
Message-ID: <43550AA6.3020506@economisa.com.br>

You mean how to choose/change a document's stylesheet with JavaScript?
Be a little bit more specific, ok?

-- 
Flavio Gomes
flavio at economisa.com.br


OIivier Grossmann wrote:

>Hello,
>
>how can I define a style in JavaScript??
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Greet Olivier
>
>_______________________________________________
>Javascript mailing list
>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>  
>


From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 11:17:48 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:17:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] regex
Message-ID: <20051018161748.71309.qmail@web51113.mail.yahoo.com>

I need to run a regex, simply replacing foo with bar
in $string...

any help?


Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From peter at brunone.com  Tue Oct 18 11:22:47 2005
From: peter at brunone.com (Peter Brunone)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:22:47 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] regex
Message-ID: <f347cbf164334400962fda258aa57351@brunone.com>

Do you really need a regex just to replace one string with another?

How about myString.replace("foo", "bar")?

 From: Anthony Ettinger apwebdesign at yahoo.com

I need to run a regex, simply replacing foo with bar
in $string...

any help?

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 13:33:46 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:33:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] regex
In-Reply-To: <f347cbf164334400962fda258aa57351@brunone.com>
Message-ID: <20051018183347.32957.qmail@web51115.mail.yahoo.com>

That should work, thanks.

--- Peter Brunone <peter at brunone.com> wrote:

> Do you really need a regex just to replace one
> string with another?
> 
> How about myString.replace("foo", "bar")?
> 
>  From: Anthony Ettinger apwebdesign at yahoo.com
> 
> I need to run a regex, simply replacing foo with bar
> in $string...
> 
> any help?
> 
> Anthony Ettinger
> ph: (408) 656-2473
> web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
> > _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> 


Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 13:39:25 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
Message-ID: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>

Can't seem to get this down, I get an HTML object, but
it's length is zero.

var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
alert(anchors); // yields [object HTML Collection]

for (anchor in anchors)
{
   var item = anchor;
   alert(item); //yields length, item, namedItem
(once)
}

at this point, I cannot figure out for the life of me
how to access an instance of the anchors list.
Basically, I just want to call getAttribute("href") on
it.

It seems as though anchors is not really a nodeList,
more like a list of metadata about the nodeList.

Thanks.

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From rdong at advance.net  Tue Oct 18 13:51:56 2005
From: rdong at advance.net (Roland Dong)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:51:56 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200510181851.OAA06180@mail.advance.net>

 for(var i=0; i<anchors.length; i++){
	Var item=anchors[i];
	alert(item);
}


> -----Original Message-----
> From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu]
> On Behalf Of Anthony Ettinger
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: javascript at LaTech.edu
> Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
> 
> Can't seem to get this down, I get an HTML object, but
> it's length is zero.
> 
> var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
> alert(anchors); // yields [object HTML Collection]
> 
> for (anchor in anchors)
> {
>    var item = anchor;
>    alert(item); //yields length, item, namedItem
> (once)
> }
> 
> at this point, I cannot figure out for the life of me
> how to access an instance of the anchors list.
> Basically, I just want to call getAttribute("href") on
> it.
> 
> It seems as though anchors is not really a nodeList,
> more like a list of metadata about the nodeList.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Anthony Ettinger
> ph: (408) 656-2473
> web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript



From allard-schripsema at procergs.rs.gov.br  Tue Oct 18 14:02:35 2005
From: allard-schripsema at procergs.rs.gov.br (Allard Schripsema)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:02:35 -0200
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DDEEKOJHIBOEHAAKCFPLEELPCEAA.allard-schripsema@procergs.rs.gov.br>

Hi there,

i dont know about your loop, but this works:

var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
for (var anchor = 0; anchor<anchors.length;anchor++){
   var item = anchors[anchor];
   alert(item.href)
}
(an excess of vars, but its just an example ok:-)

Hope this helps, 

Allard Schripsema


-----Original Message-----
From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu
[mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu]On Behalf Of Anthony Ettinger
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:39 PM
To: javascript at LaTech.edu
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList


Can't seem to get this down, I get an HTML object, but
it's length is zero.

var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
alert(anchors); // yields [object HTML Collection]

for (anchor in anchors)
{
   var item = anchor;
   alert(item); //yields length, item, namedItem
(once)
}

at this point, I cannot figure out for the life of me
how to access an instance of the anchors list.
Basically, I just want to call getAttribute("href") on
it.

It seems as though anchors is not really a nodeList,
more like a list of metadata about the nodeList.

Thanks.

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
_______________________________________________
Javascript mailing list
Javascript at LaTech.edu
https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript




From hassan at webtuitive.com  Tue Oct 18 14:12:04 2005
From: hassan at webtuitive.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:12:04 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43554904.4090206@webtuitive.com>

Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> Can't seem to get this down, I get an HTML object, but
> it's length is zero.
> 
> var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
> alert(anchors); // yields [object HTML Collection]
> 
> for (anchor in anchors)
> {
>    var item = anchor;
>    alert(item); //yields length, item, namedItem
> (once)
> }

You want something like:

for ( var count = 0; count < anchors.length; count++ )
{
	var item = anchors[count];
	alert(item.getAttribute("href")); /* or whatever */
}

HTH!
-- 
Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com
Webtuitive Design ===  (+1) 408-938-0567   === http://webtuitive.com

                          dream.  code.




From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 14:55:05 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051018195506.65336.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>

Ok, I tried all the suggestion before posting, but
couldn't get it to work either as for (item in list)
or as for (i=0;i<list.length;i++)

Been driving me crazy. I did read that the "For In"
method won't work.

The problem turns out though, is how I was calling the
function.

window.onload=Name();

Needs to be without the ()'s:

window.onload=Name;

..which makes sense, since you wouldn't be passing
parameters from anywhere on the initial routine call.



--- Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can't seem to get this down, I get an HTML object,
> but
> it's length is zero.
> 
> var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
> alert(anchors); // yields [object HTML Collection]
> 
> for (anchor in anchors)
> {
>    var item = anchor;
>    alert(item); //yields length, item, namedItem
> (once)
> }
> 
> at this point, I cannot figure out for the life of
> me
> how to access an instance of the anchors list.
> Basically, I just want to call getAttribute("href")
> on
> it.
> 
> It seems as though anchors is not really a nodeList,
> more like a list of metadata about the nodeList.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Anthony Ettinger
> ph: (408) 656-2473
> web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> 


Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From mdougherty at pbp.com  Tue Oct 18 15:05:52 2005
From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:05:52 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018195506.65336.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051018195506.65336.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <web-20971761@pbp.com>

It has nothing to do with parameters

When you use the window.onload=Name(); - you are assigning the results of having executed the Name 
function to the window.onload method.

When you use the window.onload=Name; - you are assigning the function called Name to the 
window.onload method.

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
  Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ok, I tried all the suggestion before posting, but
> couldn't get it to work either as for (item in list)
> or as for (i=0;i<list.length;i++)
> 
> Been driving me crazy. I did read that the "For In"
> method won't work.
> 
> The problem turns out though, is how I was calling the
> function.
> 
> window.onload=Name();
> 
> Needs to be without the ()'s:
> 
> window.onload=Name;
> 
> ..which makes sense, since you wouldn't be passing
> parameters from anywhere on the initial routine call.
> 
> 
> 
> --- Anthony Ettinger <apwebdesign at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can't seem to get this down, I get an HTML object,
>> but
>> it's length is zero.
>> 
>> var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
>> alert(anchors); // yields [object HTML Collection]
>> 
>> for (anchor in anchors)
>> {
>>    var item = anchor;
>>    alert(item); //yields length, item, namedItem
>> (once)
>> }
>> 
>> at this point, I cannot figure out for the life of
>> me
>> how to access an instance of the anchors list.
>> Basically, I just want to call getAttribute("href")
>> on
>> it.
>> 
>> It seems as though anchors is not really a nodeList,
>> more like a list of metadata about the nodeList.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Anthony Ettinger
>> ph: (408) 656-2473
>> web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Javascript mailing list
>> Javascript at LaTech.edu
>> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>> 
> 
> 
> Anthony Ettinger
> ph: (408) 656-2473
> web: http://www.apwebdesign.com
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> This message was scanned by ATX
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From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct 18 15:22:14 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:22:14 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018195506.65336.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051018183925.25555.qmail@web51107.mail.yahoo.com>
	<20051018195506.65336.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018130945.04becd88@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 12:55 PM 10/18/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
>window.onload=Name();
>
>Needs to be without the ()'s:
>
>window.onload=Name;
>
>..which makes sense, since you wouldn't be passing
>parameters from anywhere on the initial routine call.


The way I think of this:

         window.onload = DoSomething;

is that the entire text of the function DoSomething() is copied to 
the window.onload "variable."  If you then execute:

         alert(window.onload);

you'll see the DoSomething() function script there in its entirety.

One interesting ramification of this (which I've played with in other 
languages but never in javascript) is the feasibility of parsing and 
modifying function code stored in a variable.  For example, a 
function can edit a copy of itself and then call this revised form of 
itself.  Nasty-fun wrinkle on recursion!  Those kinds of games can 
produce program code that's incredibly difficult to maintain, but 
it's fun to play with nonetheless.

Paul 



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 15:34:57 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018130945.04becd88@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051018203457.81415.qmail@web51112.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 12:55 PM 10/18/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> >window.onload=Name();
> >
> >Needs to be without the ()'s:
> >
> >window.onload=Name;
> >
> >..which makes sense, since you wouldn't be passing
> >parameters from anywhere on the initial routine
> call.
> 
> 
> The way I think of this:
> 
>          window.onload = DoSomething;
> 
> is that the entire text of the function
> DoSomething() is copied to 
> the window.onload "variable."  If you then execute:
> 
>          alert(window.onload);
> 
> you'll see the DoSomething() function script there
> in its entirety.
> 
> One interesting ramification of this (which I've
> played with in other 
> languages but never in javascript) is the
> feasibility of parsing and 
> modifying function code stored in a variable.  For
> example, a 
> function can edit a copy of itself and then call
> this revised form of 
> itself.  Nasty-fun wrinkle on recursion!  Those
> kinds of games can 
> produce program code that's incredibly difficult to
> maintain, but 
> it's fun to play with nonetheless.
> 

Haa...nice.

Any input on this? I basically am rewriting mailto:,
removing the non-working @.

accessible, but doesn't work unless user changes the @
manually. I've seen the html entity solution, but
seems rather easy to defeat to me. Would only have to
convert entities back into symbols.

ie - using &#46; and &#64;

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct 18 16:13:13 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:13:13 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018203457.81415.qmail@web51112.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018130945.04becd88@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<20051018203457.81415.qmail@web51112.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018140500.04c194e0@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 01:34 PM 10/18/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
>Any input on this? I basically am rewriting mailto:,
>removing the non-working @.

Please clarify what you mean by "removing the non-working @."

If your page downloads with email addresses intact, and then your 
javascript routine encrypts them on page load, please realize that 
this won't trick robots who will see the page in its pre-javascript form.

Usually what people do to obfuscate email addresses on web pages is 
to store the address on the page in some cryptic form, then use 
javascript to assemble a properly-formed mailto: link on page-load or 
at the moment the user clicks or keys down on it.

Paul 



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 16:15:17 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:15:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <web-20971761@pbp.com>
Message-ID: <20051018211517.85972.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Mike Dougherty <mdougherty at pbp.com> wrote:

> It has nothing to do with parameters
> 
> When you use the window.onload=Name(); - you are
> assigning the results of having executed the Name 
> function to the window.onload method.
> 
> When you use the window.onload=Name; - you are
> assigning the function called Name to the 
> window.onload method.


How should I call function names then?

If I run window.onload=Foo; it works,

if I have:

window.onload=Bar;

function Bar()
{
    Foo;
}

Foo does not get called. It only works in the 2nd
instance if I call it as Foo();

What's going on here?

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 16:20:03 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018140500.04c194e0@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051018212003.66239.qmail@web51103.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 01:34 PM 10/18/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> >Any input on this? I basically am rewriting
> mailto:,
> >removing the non-working @.
> 
> Please clarify what you mean by "removing the
> non-working @."
> 
> If your page downloads with email addresses intact,
> and then your 
> javascript routine encrypts them on page load,
> please realize that 
> this won't trick robots who will see the page in its
> pre-javascript form.
> 
> Usually what people do to obfuscate email addresses
> on web pages is 
> to store the address on the page in some cryptic
> form, then use 
> javascript to assemble a properly-formed mailto:
> link on page-load or 
> at the moment the user clicks or keys down on it.
> 

Yes. The html entities got converted in the email but
the &-#64-; and &-#46-; for the @ and "." 

I have foo--at--bar.org. And use js to rewrite them
when the page loads. It's not accessible, because if
no js, then the email client loads with the
"foo--at--bar.org" version. I see lots of examples of
using html entities to construct the email, but i
would think the spammers have simply converted
entities back to symbols by now in their scripts when
the see "&(.*?);" in the "mailto" string. Whereas
getting througha  javascript layer would be more
difficult? (maybe not).





Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Tue Oct 18 16:56:44 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:56:44 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <20051018211517.85972.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <web-20971761@pbp.com>
	<20051018211517.85972.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018142549.0519a008@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 02:15 PM 10/18/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
>How should I call function names then?
>
>If I run window.onload=Foo; it works,
>
>if I have:
>
>window.onload=Bar;
>
>function Bar()
>{
>     Foo;
>}
>
>Foo does not get called. It only works in the 2nd
>instance if I call it as Foo();
>
>What's going on here?


To reiterate Mike's point:
_____________________________

If your javascript statement is:
         Foo;
then you are invoking the TEXT of the function Foo().  This is like writing:
         "funky";
It doesn't do anything, it just sits there.  It's just an expression 
with no verb.
_____________________________

If you state:
         Foo();
then you are executing the function Foo().  In this case, the 
browser's javascript interpreter performs the logic of the Foo() function
_____________________________

The reason we generally write:
         window.onload = Foo;
and not:
         window.onload = Foo();
is that we want window.onload to equal the TEXT of function Foo(); 
when the page finishes loading, the function text contained in 
window.onload will execute.  It's an exact copy of your function 
Foo() and will perform identically.
_____________________________


Rarely will you ever want to write:

         window.onload = Foo();

This would make sense only if function Foo() returned javscript code, 
something like this:

         window.onload = Foo();

         function Foo()
         {
            return("alert('hello world')");
         }

window.onload would then contain the script:

         alert('hello world')

which would execute when the page finished loading.


Clear as mud?

Paul 



From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 18 17:09:51 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] looping through nodeList
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051018142549.0519a008@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <20051018220951.93457.qmail@web51109.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Paul Novitski <paul at novitskisoftware.com> wrote:

> At 02:15 PM 10/18/2005, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> >How should I call function names then?
> >
> >If I run window.onload=Foo; it works,
> >
> >if I have:
> >
> >window.onload=Bar;
> >
> >function Bar()
> >{
> >     Foo;
> >}
> >
> >Foo does not get called. It only works in the 2nd
> >instance if I call it as Foo();
> >
> >What's going on here?
> 
> 
> To reiterate Mike's point:
> _____________________________
> 
> If your javascript statement is:
>          Foo;
> then you are invoking the TEXT of the function
> Foo().  This is like writing:
>          "funky";
> It doesn't do anything, it just sits there.  It's
> just an expression 
> with no verb.
> _____________________________
> 
> If you state:
>          Foo();
> then you are executing the function Foo().  In this
> case, the 
> browser's javascript interpreter performs the logic
> of the Foo() function
> _____________________________
> 
> The reason we generally write:
>          window.onload = Foo;
> and not:
>          window.onload = Foo();
> is that we want window.onload to equal the TEXT of
> function Foo(); 
> when the page finishes loading, the function text
> contained in 
> window.onload will execute.  It's an exact copy of
> your function 
> Foo() and will perform identically.
> _____________________________
> 
> 
> Rarely will you ever want to write:
> 
>          window.onload = Foo();
> 
> This would make sense only if function Foo()
> returned javscript code, 
> something like this:
> 
>          window.onload = Foo();
> 
>          function Foo()
>          {
>             return("alert('hello world')");
>          }
> 
> window.onload would then contain the script:
> 
>          alert('hello world')
> 
> which would execute when the page finished loading.
> 
> 
> Clear as mud?
> 

Great, thanks! :-D

Didn't know I could return code references.

Anthony Ettinger
ph: (408) 656-2473
web: http://www.apwebdesign.com


From merchant at LATECH.EDU  Wed Oct 19 13:19:26 2005
From: merchant at LATECH.EDU (David Merchant)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:19:26 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] JavaScript List Unsubscirbe, Subscribe & Posting Info
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If you still are unable to unsubscribe or subscribe, send a message to me 
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Once subscribed, to post to the list send your posts to <javascript at latech.edu>

TTFN,
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From cmunozp at indap.cl  Wed Oct 19 14:45:43 2005
From: cmunozp at indap.cl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mu=F1oz_Pe=F1aloza_Carlos_Alberto?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:45:43 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Microsoft.XMLDOM v/s MSXML2.DOMdocument
Message-ID: <896D2E225C6459499C2840162BE53EE302EAB1BE@stgomail01.indap.nac>

Hola a todos es un gusto poder ser parte de esta lista, tengo la siguiente duda, para mostrar un archivo xml en javascript realizo la siguiente rutina:

   var source= new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM");
   source.async= false;
   source.load("pagina.xml");


que ventajas tendria utilizar MSXML2.DOMdocument, se que es una version mas actualizada, pero tendra un mejor rendimiento, una mejor performance???


Saludos y gracias

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From riegel at clearimageonline.com  Fri Oct 21 19:08:12 2005
From: riegel at clearimageonline.com (Terry Riegel)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:08:12 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
Message-ID: <A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>

I have a page that uses the code pasted below

---
      var a = document.getElementById(dest);
      a.className='sel'
      document.browseform["fm_list"].value = "|"+dest+b;
      document.browseform["fm_cmd"].value = "";
      document.browseformhere["fm_cmd"].value = "";
      document.browseformhere["fm_list"].value = "|"+dest+b;
      document.browseform.submit();
---



The only reason I need to getElementById is to set the background  
color to indicate the link is selected. Is there a way to set an  
attribute without looking up the id? I am looking for ways to speed  
up my pages, some have hundred's of ID's.

Something like MyParentDiv.className='sel'



Here is the HTML

---
<div class="nor" id="images">
  <a href="javascript:changedest2('images','DIR')"><img src="/ 
clearimage/images/dir-small.gif" border="0" width="12" height="12"  
align="left"></a>
  <a href="javascript:changedest('images','DIR')"  
ondblclick="changedest2('images','DIR')">images</a>
</div>
---


From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Sat Oct 22 01:53:58 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:53:58 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 05:08 PM 10/21/2005, Terry Riegel wrote:
>The only reason I need to getElementById is to set the background
>color to indicate the link is selected. Is there a way to set an
>attribute without looking up the id? I am looking for ways to speed
>up my pages, some have hundred's of ID's.

Terry,

You can pass references to the objects themselves instead of their ids:

         <tag onclick="doSomething(this);">
...
         function doSomething(argObject)
         {
                 argObject.className = "selected";
         }

If you prefer to avoid inline scripting, as I do, you can accomplish 
the same thing this way:

         function Initialize()
         {
                 ...
                 oObject.onclick = doSomething;
         }

         function doSomething(evt)
         {
                 // cancel event-bubbling
                         if (evt) { event = evt; }
                 event.cancelBubble = true;

                 // change class
                 this.className = "selected";
         }

Peter-Paul Koch has some good tutorials on event processing in 
javascript at http://www.quirksmode.org/

Regards,
Paul 



From javascript at webdesignofficina.com  Sat Oct 22 07:50:04 2005
From: javascript at webdesignofficina.com (Guillaume)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:50:04 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <435A357C.4000800@webdesignofficina.com>


PPK has also a very useful page wich summarize all properties you can 
use to work with W3C DOM and their support in major browsers. Take a 
look at: http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_core.html

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Guillaume.

>
> Peter-Paul Koch has some good tutorials on event processing in 
> javascript at http://www.quirksmode.org/
>
> Regards,
> Paul
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From del at delweg.com  Sat Oct 22 09:32:39 2005
From: del at delweg.com (Del Wegener)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:32:39 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] Creating Word Document with JavaScript
Message-ID: <009c01c5d715$74b2d810$2c89cf18@delano0dbywo7y>

Good Morning;

I have developed a simple flat file database consisting of JS Include
files containing mathematics definitions, formulas, properties, etc.  I
have also written several little JS programs which place identified
database items on a web page or on interactive flashcards.  For example
the function call  myPut('Definition',def_null_set) returns the word
Definition followed by the database item named def_null_set all properly
formatted.
See
http://www.drdelmath.com/jeffco_intermediate_algebra/chapter_summaries/jeffco_intermediate_algebra_chapter1_summary.htm

I would like to write similar JS programs which would create entries in
an MS Word document instead of web pages.  Ideally the program would
request a list of items to be included and would create a Word document
containing those items.

Is this possible ?  Can anyone point me to a source where I might learn
how to do this ?

Right now I do not have time to do all of this with a real database.

Thanks for any pointers.

Del
del at delweg.com
www.delweg.com
www.drdelmath.com



From paladin at fuse.net  Sat Oct 22 18:18:22 2005
From: paladin at fuse.net (Scott Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:18:22 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Creating Word Document with JavaScript
References: <009c01c5d715$74b2d810$2c89cf18@delano0dbywo7y>
Message-ID: <002c01c5d75e$e73009f0$4268ba0a@badboy2>

Del Wegener wrote:
> Good Morning;
>
> I have developed a simple flat file database consisting of JS Include
> files containing mathematics definitions, formulas, properties, etc.
> I have also written several little JS programs which place identified
> database items on a web page or on interactive flashcards.  For
> example the function call  myPut('Definition',def_null_set) returns
> the word Definition followed by the database item named def_null_set
> all properly formatted.
> See
> http://www.drdelmath.com/jeffco_intermediate_algebra/chapter_summaries/jeffco_intermediate_algebra_chapter1_summary.htm
>
> I would like to write similar JS programs which would create entries
> in an MS Word document instead of web pages.  Ideally the program
> would request a list of items to be included and would create a Word
> document containing those items.
>
> Is this possible ?  Can anyone point me to a source where I might
> learn how to do this ?
>
> Right now I do not have time to do all of this with a real database.
>
> Thanks for any pointers.
>
> Del
<<::SNIP::>>

Del, I could be mistaken, but I think you're out of luck with javascript. 
Although it is quite easy to use Word as a COM (automation) server from a 
fully-fledged language such as C++, VB, or Delphi, AFAIK javascript does not 
have the capability to act as a COM client. Since it is cross-platform, and 
never intended for such use, I would be greatly surprised to learn that this 
capability exists.

Cheers,
Scott



From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 22 22:51:32 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 05:51:32 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Creating Word Document with JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <009c01c5d715$74b2d810$2c89cf18@delano0dbywo7y>
Message-ID: <BAY19-F123690F9BCF73902653E97A8740@phx.gbl>

If it is posible with excel, with word can't be more difficult:
see this example: (it's from jscript 5.x documentation)

var ExcelSheet;
ExcelApp = new ActiveXObject("Excel.Application");
ExcelSheet = new ActiveXObject("Excel.Sheet");

// Make Excel visible through the Application object.
ExcelSheet.Application.Visible = true;
// Place some text in the first cell of the sheet.
ExcelSheet.ActiveSheet.Cells(1,1).Value = "This is column A, row 1";
// Save the sheet.
ExcelSheet.SaveAs("C:\\TEST.XLS");
// Close Excel with the Quit method on the Application object.
ExcelSheet.Application.Quit();

write this in a tex file and save it as *.js doubleclick and see what 
happens! Any further comment is sufficient.
The only thing you need to nkow further is to see the commands neded to 
enter ms word formatings etc, you can make the app invisible dourin the 
operation if f you like.
<br><br><br><html><DIV>
<P align=center>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Troy 
III<BR>progressive art 
enterprise<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P></DIV></html>



<BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'><font 
style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'><hr color=#A0C6E5 
size=1>
From:  <i>&quot;Del Wegener&quot; &lt;del at delweg.com&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:  
<i>&quot;\[JavaScript List\]&quot; &lt;javascript at LaTech.edu&gt;</i><br>To:  
<i>&lt;javascript at latech.edu&gt;</i><br>Subject:  <i>[Javascript] Creating 
Word Document with JavaScript</i><br>Date:  <i>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:32:39 
-0500</i><br>&gt;Good Morning;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I have developed a simple flat 
file database consisting of JS Include<br>&gt;files containing mathematics 
definitions, formulas, properties, etc.  I<br>&gt;have also written several 
little JS programs which place identified<br>&gt;database items on a web 
page or on interactive flashcards.  For example<br>&gt;the function call  
myPut('Definition',def_null_set) returns the word<br>&gt;Definition followed 
by the database item named def_null_set all 
properly<br>&gt;formatted.<br>&gt;See<br>&gt;http://www.drdelmath.com/jeffco_intermediate_algebra/chapter_summaries/jeffco_intermediate_algebra_chapter1_summary.htm<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I 
would like to write similar JS programs which would create entries 
in<br>&gt;an MS Word document instead of web pages.  Ideally the program 
would<br>&gt;request a list of items to be included and would create a Word 
document<br>&gt;containing those items.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Is this possible ?  
Can anyone point me to a source where I might learn<br>&gt;how to do this 
?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Right now I do not have time to do all of this with a real 
database.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Thanks for any 
pointers.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Del<br>&gt;del at delweg.com<br>&gt;www.delweg.com<br>&gt;www.drdelmath.com<br>&gt;<br>&gt;_______________________________________________<br>&gt;Javascript 
mailing 
list<br>&gt;Javascript at LaTech.edu<br>&gt;https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript<br></font></BLOCKQUOTE>

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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 22 23:08:42 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:08:42 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
Message-ID: <BAY19-F2479027A6256D84D3C898FA8740@phx.gbl>

Sorry, but something like that is possible and still working only in IEssss. 
The document.getUgly('byW3C.happyforIt') is the 'standard' for now.

-sorry if my post look's ugly, its because I've just installed the firefox, 
sort of W3C standard!

<html><DIV>
<P align=center>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Troy 
III<BR>progressive art 
enterprise<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P></DIV></html>


<BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'><font 
style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'><hr color=#A0C6E5 
size=1>
From:  <i>Terry Riegel &lt;riegel at clearimageonline.com&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:  
<i>&quot;\[JavaScript List\]&quot; &lt;javascript at LaTech.edu&gt;</i><br>To:  
<i>&quot;\[JavaScript List\]&quot; 
&lt;javascript at LaTech.edu&gt;</i><br>Subject:  <i>Re: [Javascript] Something 
better than getElementById</i><br>Date:  <i>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:08:12 
-0400</i><br>&gt;I have a page that uses the code pasted 
below<br>&gt;<br>&gt;---<br>&gt;      var a = 
document.getElementById(dest);<br>&gt;      a.className='sel'<br>&gt;      
document.browseform[&quot;fm_list&quot;].value = 
&quot;|&quot;+dest+b;<br>&gt;      
document.browseform[&quot;fm_cmd&quot;].value = &quot;&quot;;<br>&gt;      
document.browseformhere[&quot;fm_cmd&quot;].value = &quot;&quot;;<br>&gt;    
   document.browseformhere[&quot;fm_list&quot;].value = 
&quot;|&quot;+dest+b;<br>&gt;      
document.browseform.submit();<br>&gt;---<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;The 
only reason I need to getElementById is to set the background  <br>&gt;color 
to indicate the link is selected. Is there a way to set an  
<br>&gt;attribute without looking up the id? I am looking for ways to speed  
<br>&gt;up my pages, some have hundred's of ID's.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Something 
like MyParentDiv.className='sel'<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Here is the 
HTML<br>&gt;<br>&gt;---<br>&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;nor&quot; 
id=&quot;images&quot;&gt;<br>&gt;  &lt;a 
href=&quot;javascript:changedest2('images','DIR')&quot;&gt;&lt;img 
src=&quot;/ <br>&gt;clearimage/images/dir-small.gif&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;12&quot; height=&quot;12&quot;  
<br>&gt;align=&quot;left&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&gt;  &lt;a 
href=&quot;javascript:changedest('images','DIR')&quot;  
<br>&gt;ondblclick=&quot;changedest2('images','DIR')&quot;&gt;images&lt;/a&gt;<br>&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br>&gt;---<br>&gt;_______________________________________________<br>&gt;Javascript 
mailing 
list<br>&gt;Javascript at LaTech.edu<br>&gt;https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript<br></font></BLOCKQUOTE>

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From rer at datacompusa.com  Sun Oct 23 08:15:21 2005
From: rer at datacompusa.com (Roger Roelofs)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:15:21 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F2479027A6256D84D3C898FA8740@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY19-F2479027A6256D84D3C898FA8740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6ddf648d7bf28cc38ad38c1918719220@datacompusa.com>

Troy,

On Oct 23, 2005, at 12:08 AM, Troy III Ajnej wrote:

> Sorry, but something like that is possible and still working only in 
> IEssss. The document.getUgly('byW3C.happyforIt') is the 'standard' for 
> now.
>
> -sorry if my post look's ugly, its because I've just installed the 
> firefox, sort of W3C standard!

You're welcome to prefer ie.  It is still the majority browser.  
However, I'm not sure you post was helpful to the person asking the 
question in the first place.  Are you referring to the ie only 
document.all[] collection?  If so, and the original poster is in an ie 
only environment, he can write

      var a = document.all[dest];
      a.className='sel'
instead of
      var a = document.getElementById(dest);
      a.className='sel'

If you hate typing long strings of stuff like document.getElementById, 
(I know that annoys me) you can do this

getId = document.getElementById;
... later in code ....
var a = getIe(dest);

Troy,  I am confidant you know all this, but I know there are scripters 
at all levels on this list who might benefit by an explanation of the 
technique you had in mind.  In fact, I could have completely missed the 
boat in guessing at whet you meant.

Have a great day!

Roger,

Roger Roelofs
Datacomp Appraisal Services



From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 23 18:14:10 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:14:10 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <6ddf648d7bf28cc38ad38c1918719220@datacompusa.com>
Message-ID: <BAY19-F287F459DB6E327C0360E73A8740@phx.gbl>

Not that I'm preferring IE over other browsers, -a browser is a browser. I 
start browsing with
whatever is in front of me. Still I agree that IE is the agent used by 
majority and I encounter
it more often than other browsers. Your post was a good one and I appreciate 
it.

For at least IE 4.1 and later, there is no need to call 'document.all' 
itieration.
You can selectively call/select the element directly from D.O.
In this/his case:

        pictures.className='sel' //direct set of property and still IE only
                                         /*this should rise a naming issue, 
as pictures is a collection entitiy,
                                            but it doesn't! That's because 
... not so important*/

The mate's question was, I guess, something like 'faster method', not only 
(obviously) cleaner,
but faster. I haven't run any tests in comparing IE original syntax with the 
new
getElementById('pictures')
adoption of standard, but as we can see. It involves D.O. collection 
look-up, as a first step and
seccond step: compare them in string  format.
That is two actions and the sllower string method, instead of direct 
selection of D.O. (!Treat this,
only as logical conclusion please).

But possibly the mate noticed some impact on speed of ecxecution, therefore, 
he got curious to
see if there is some other method that could speed his way out.

None that I'm aware of. //-If, cross-browser compatibility is aquired!

But this is an open list and anybody who knows more on this topic is free to 
post solutions.
My 're:' was somewhat tentious because W3C knows how to piss me/lot of us 
off.
But I get happier when I see that more browsers implement at least the 
'innerHTML' property,
dispite the W3C decision. As far as I'm concerned, W3C reinvented the wheel 
with their buggy nodes and made it somewhat: 'eliptic'.
It doesn't Rock'n'Roll at all.

Thank's again

<html><DIV>
<P align=center>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Troy 
III<BR>progressive art 
enterprise<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P></DIV></html>



<BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 
2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'><font 
style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'><hr color=#A0C6E5 
size=1>
From:  <i>Roger Roelofs &lt;rer at datacompusa.com&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:  
<i>&quot;\[JavaScript List\]&quot; &lt;javascript at LaTech.edu&gt;</i><br>To:  
<i>&quot;\[JavaScript List\]&quot; 
&lt;javascript at LaTech.edu&gt;</i><br>Subject:  <i>Re: [Javascript] Something 
better than getElementById</i><br>Date:  <i>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:15:21 
-0400</i><br>&gt;Troy,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;On Oct 23, 2005, at 12:08 AM, Troy III 
Ajnej wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Sorry, but something like that is possible 
and still working only <br>&gt;&gt;in IEssss. The 
document.getUgly('byW3C.happyforIt') is the <br>&gt;&gt;'standard' for 
now.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;-sorry if my post look's ugly, its because I've 
just installed the <br>&gt;&gt;firefox, sort of W3C 
standard!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;You're welcome to prefer ie.  It is still the 
majority browser.  <br>&gt;However, I'm not sure you post was helpful to the 
person asking the <br>&gt;question in the first place.  Are you referring to 
the ie only <br>&gt;document.all[] collection?  If so, and the original 
poster is in an <br>&gt;ie only environment, he can write<br>&gt;<br>&gt;    
   var a = document.all[dest];<br>&gt;      a.className='sel'<br>&gt;instead 
of<br>&gt;      var a = document.getElementById(dest);<br>&gt;      
a.className='sel'<br>&gt;<br>&gt;If you hate typing long strings of stuff 
like <br>&gt;document.getElementById, (I know that annoys me) you can do 
this<br>&gt;<br>&gt;getId = document.getElementById;<br>&gt;... later in 
code ....<br>&gt;var a = getIe(dest);<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Troy,  I am confidant 
you know all this, but I know there are <br>&gt;scripters at all levels on 
this list who might benefit by an <br>&gt;explanation of the technique you 
had in mind.  In fact, I could have <br>&gt;completely missed the boat in 
guessing at whet you meant.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Have a great 
day!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Roger,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Roger Roelofs<br>&gt;Datacomp 
Appraisal 
Services<br>&gt;<br>&gt;_______________________________________________<br>&gt;Javascript 
mailing 
list<br>&gt;Javascript at LaTech.edu<br>&gt;https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript<br></font></BLOCKQUOTE>

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From riegel at clearimageonline.com  Mon Oct 24 10:14:14 2005
From: riegel at clearimageonline.com (Terry Riegel)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:14:14 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <3DF0D6A1-4C50-4632-89DA-846033F4A49E@clearimageonline.com>

Paul,

Thanks for your answer. It is very helpful.

I am starting to recraft my pages and need a good tutorial on parsing  
stings with javascript for someone with a heavy background in BASIC  
style programming and very little understanding of Regular  
Expressions. Any ideas?

Here is a BASIC style instruction I need to convert to Javascript

a="nor pri"
b="sel"+right(a,length(a)-3)

RESULT:
a="nor pri"
b="sel pri"

Thanks for any help.

Terry


On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:53 AM, Paul Novitski wrote:

> At 05:08 PM 10/21/2005, Terry Riegel wrote:
>
>> The only reason I need to getElementById is to set the background
>> color to indicate the link is selected. Is there a way to set an
>> attribute without looking up the id? I am looking for ways to speed
>> up my pages, some have hundred's of ID's.
>>
>
> Terry,
>
> You can pass references to the objects themselves instead of their  
> ids:
>
>         <tag onclick="doSomething(this);">
> ...
>         function doSomething(argObject)
>         {
>                 argObject.className = "selected";
>         }
>
> If you prefer to avoid inline scripting, as I do, you can  
> accomplish the same thing this way:
>
>         function Initialize()
>         {
>                 ...
>                 oObject.onclick = doSomething;
>         }
>
>         function doSomething(evt)
>         {
>                 // cancel event-bubbling
>                         if (evt) { event = evt; }
>                 event.cancelBubble = true;
>
>                 // change class
>                 this.className = "selected";
>         }
>
> Peter-Paul Koch has some good tutorials on event processing in  
> javascript at http://www.quirksmode.org/
>
> Regards,
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>



From riegel at clearimageonline.com  Mon Oct 24 11:02:01 2005
From: riegel at clearimageonline.com (Terry Riegel)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:02:01 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com>

Paul,

I was able to implement your first suggestion, but I am not clear on  
how to implement the method that avoids inline scripting. Here is my  
simplified test page that isn't working. Any Ideas on what I might be  
missing?

Terry


<html>
<head>
<style>
  .sel     {padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom:3px; padding-left: 10px;  
padding-right: 10px; margin: 0; color: white; background: #3875D7;}
  .selpub  {padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom:3px; padding-left: 10px;  
padding-right: 10px; margin: 0; color: white; background: #3875D7;}
  .selpri  {padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom:3px; padding-left: 10px;  
padding-right: 10px; margin: 0; color: white; background: #3875D7;}
  .nor     {padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom:3px; padding-left: 10px;  
padding-right: 10px; margin: 0;}
  .norpub  {padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom:3px; padding-left: 10px;  
padding-right: 10px; margin: 0; color: black;}
  .norpri  {padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom:3px; padding-left: 10px;  
padding-right: 10px; margin: 0; color: #777777;}
</style>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function changestate(evt)
{
    // cancel event-bubbling
    if (evt) { event = evt; }
    event.cancelBubble = true;


    // change class
    if (this.className.search('nor') == -1)
     {
       this.className=this.className.replace('sel','nor');
     }
    else
     {
       this.className=this.className.replace('nor','sel');
     }
}

function Initialize()
{
     div.onclick = changestate;
}




//-->
</script>



</head>
<body onload="Initialize()">
  <div class="nor" id=".TEMP">.TEMP</div>
  <div class="nor" id="images">images</div>
  <div class="nor" id="skel">skel</div>
  <div class="nor" id="users">users</div>
  <div class="norpri" id="archive.pak">archive.pak</div>
  <div class="norpub" id="authenticate.html">authenticate.html</div>
</body>
</html>


Thanks for any help.

Terry


On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:53 AM, Paul Novitski wrote:

> At 05:08 PM 10/21/2005, Terry Riegel wrote:
>
>> The only reason I need to getElementById is to set the background
>> color to indicate the link is selected. Is there a way to set an
>> attribute without looking up the id? I am looking for ways to speed
>> up my pages, some have hundred's of ID's.
>>
>
> Terry,
>
> You can pass references to the objects themselves instead of their  
> ids:
>
>         <tag onclick="doSomething(this);">
> ...
>         function doSomething(argObject)
>         {
>                 argObject.className = "selected";
>         }
>
> If you prefer to avoid inline scripting, as I do, you can  
> accomplish the same thing this way:
>
>         function Initialize()
>         {
>                 ...
>                 oObject.onclick = doSomething;
>         }
>
>         function doSomething(evt)
>         {
>                 // cancel event-bubbling
>                         if (evt) { event = evt; }
>                 event.cancelBubble = true;
>
>                 // change class
>                 this.className = "selected";
>         }
>
> Peter-Paul Koch has some good tutorials on event processing in  
> javascript at http://www.quirksmode.org/
>
> Regards,
> Paul
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>

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From merchant at LATECH.EDU  Mon Oct 24 12:00:38 2005
From: merchant at LATECH.EDU (David Merchant)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:00:38 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] Microsoft.XMLDOM v/s MSXML2.DOMdocument
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From paul at novitskisoftware.com  Mon Oct 24 14:02:51 2005
From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:02:51 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
In-Reply-To: <CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051024114449.04cf2b50@mail.spamarrest.com>

At 09:02 AM 10/24/2005, Terry Riegel wrote:
>I was able to implement your first suggestion, but I am not clear on 
>how to implement the method that avoids inline scripting. Here is my 
>simplified test page that isn't working. Any Ideas on what I might be missing?
...
>function changestate(evt)
>{
>    // cancel event-bubbling
>    if (evt) { event = evt; }
>    event.cancelBubble = true;
>
>
>    // change class
>    if (this.className.search('nor') == -1)
>     {
>       this.className=this.className.replace('sel','nor');
>     }
>    else
>     {
>       this.className=this.className.replace('nor','sel');
>     }
>}
>
>function Initialize()
>{
>     div.onclick = changestate;
>}
...
><body onload="Initialize()">
>  <div class="nor" id=".TEMP">.TEMP</div>
>  <div class="nor" id="images">images</div>
>  <div class="nor" id="skel">skel</div>
>  <div class="nor" id="users">users</div>
>  <div class="norpri" id="archive.pak">archive.pak</div>
>  <div class="norpub" id="authenticate.html">authenticate.html</div>
></body>
></html>


Terry,

Your Initialize() function doesn't correctly identify an object:

>     div.onclick = changestate;

This would work only if you had an element with the id "div", e.g.:

         <p id="div">

Instead, it looks like you need to loop through all the elements on 
the page that meet certain criteria and assign the onclick behavior 
to each one.  For the moment I'll assume that they're all DIVs and 
they all have classNames beginning with "nor":
____________________________

function Initialize()
{
         // get an array of all DIV elements on the page
         var aEls = document.getElementsByTagName("DIV");

         // loop through them looking for matches
         for (var iEl=0; iEl < aEls.length; iEl++)
         {
                 // check class
                 sClass = aEls[iEl].className;
                         if (sClass.search("^nor") == 0)
                         {
                                 aEls[iEl].onclick = changestate;
                         }
         }
}
____________________________

In sClass.search("^nor") I'm using the regular expression "^nor" in 
which ^ represents the beginning of the string, so it will only find 
nor when it begins a className.  You could also write this as:

         if (sClass.substr(0,3) == "nor")

String.substr() may take fewer milliseconds to execute than 
String.search(RegExp), if as has been suggested the RegExp engine 
takes a few more machine cycles to fire up, but this difference isn't 
going to be humanly perceptible unless you're looping hundreds of times.

Later, when you're replacing "nor" with "sel", I'd likewise use ^ to 
be really specific:

    // change class
    if (this.className.search('^nor') == -1)
     {
       this.className=this.className.replace('^sel','nor');
     }
    else
     {
       this.className=this.className.replace('^nor','sel');
     }

Paul 



From riegel at clearimageonline.com  Mon Oct 24 15:57:42 2005
From: riegel at clearimageonline.com (Terry Riegel)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:57:42 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051024114449.04cf2b50@mail.spamarrest.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051024114449.04cf2b50@mail.spamarrest.com>
Message-ID: <A3AD8EF1-B19B-488F-BB2A-D39A47BB839B@clearimageonline.com>

Hello,

Is there a way to run a function that exists in another frame?

Terry


From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 24 20:13:50 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:13:50 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] a BASIC instruction 2 JS
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 25 02:21:15 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:21:15 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than getElementById
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From skyscanner at eircom.net  Tue Oct 25 02:28:20 2005
From: skyscanner at eircom.net (SkyScanner)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:28:20 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl><op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast><A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com><6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com><CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com><6.2.3.4.2.20051024114449.04cf2b50@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<A3AD8EF1-B19B-488F-BB2A-D39A47BB839B@clearimageonline.com>
Message-ID: <011b01c5d936$125be1c0$69882ec2@ic7g>

Sure - just call parent.otherframename.myfunction();


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Riegel" <riegel at clearimageonline.com>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:57 PM
Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?


> Hello,
> 
> Is there a way to run a function that exists in another frame?
> 
> Terry
> _______________________________________________
> Javascript mailing list
> Javascript at LaTech.edu
> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
> 


From rhernandez at datadec.es  Tue Oct 25 02:32:16 2005
From: rhernandez at datadec.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rafael_Hern=E1ndez?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:32:16 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
Message-ID: <8C987B8472B8A84FB42BD34E6C8A58CAFCC16F@srv-w2k-exchang.datadec2000.es>

Hi,
This is a simple example.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] En nombre de Terry Riegel
Enviado el: lunes, 24 de octubre de 2005 22:58
Para: [JavaScript List]
Asunto: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?


Hello,

Is there a way to run a function that exists in another frame?

Terry
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 25 02:49:58 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:49:58 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than... 2nd post
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From javascript at mattbarton.org  Tue Oct 25 05:56:33 2005
From: javascript at mattbarton.org (Matt Barton)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:56:33 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
In-Reply-To: <011b01c5d936$125be1c0$69882ec2@ic7g>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl><op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast><A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com><6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com><CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com><6.2.3.4.2.20051024114449.04cf2b50@mail.spamarrest.com><A3AD8EF1-B19B-488F-BB2A-D39A47BB839B@clearimageonline.com>
	<011b01c5d936$125be1c0$69882ec2@ic7g>
Message-ID: <435E0F61.3090102@mattbarton.org>

As long as the two frames are both displaying content from the same 
domain.  (Query: that is still true isn't it?)

Matt


SkyScanner wrote:
> Sure - just call parent.otherframename.myfunction();
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Terry Riegel" <riegel at clearimageonline.com>
> To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:57 PM
> Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
> 
> 
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>Is there a way to run a function that exists in another frame?
>>
>>Terry
>>_______________________________________________
>>Javascript mailing list
>>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>>
> 
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From nick at nickfitz.co.uk  Tue Oct 25 07:29:48 2005
From: nick at nickfitz.co.uk (Nick Fitzsimons)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:29:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than... 2nd post
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F22D324592051E6557D7330A8760@phx.gbl>
References: <CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com> 
	<BAY19-F22D324592051E6557D7330A8760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <37507.193.195.164.58.1130243388.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk>

For your third post, you could remove the extra semicolon at the start of
your function :-)

if(!e);  e = window.event;
------^

should be

if(!e)  e = window.event;

(Also, it's usually better not to use HTML for email... but maybe that's
just me.)

Cheers,

Nick.

> <html><div style='background-color:'><P>(No delivery confirmation
> received!)&nbsp;Reposting script only:</P>
> <P><BR>&lt;script&gt;</P><PRE>function changestate(e){
> 	if(!e);  e = window.event;
>
> 	if(e.srcElement){
> 	   e = e.srcElement
> 	}
>
>    else if(e.target){
> 	   e=e.target
> 	}
>
> 	if(e.className.search('nor') == -1){
> 	   e.className=e.className.replace('sel','nor')
> 	}
>
>    else{   e.className=e.className.replace('nor','sel')
> 	}
>     }
>
> document.onclick=changestate;
> </PRE>
> <P>&lt;/script&gt;<BR><BR><BR></P>
> <DIV>
> <P align=center>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Troy
> III<BR>progressive art
> enterprise<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
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> FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif">
> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>
> From: <I>Terry Riegel <A
> href="mailto:riegel at clearimageonline.com">riegel at clearimageonline.com</A></I><BR>
> <P></FONT>&nbsp;</P></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>Express yourself
> instantly with MSN Messenger! <a
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From mdougherty at pbp.com  Tue Oct 25 08:49:31 2005
From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:49:31 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
In-Reply-To: <435E0F61.3090102@mattbarton.org>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>
	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>
	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<CFBAB834-FB18-4E84-9BF2-9D79ADB15F9A@clearimageonline.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20051024114449.04cf2b50@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<A3AD8EF1-B19B-488F-BB2A-D39A47BB839B@clearimageonline.com>
	<011b01c5d936$125be1c0$69882ec2@ic7g>
	<435E0F61.3090102@mattbarton.org>
Message-ID: <web-21469857@pbp.com>

In the case of IE, you may need to specify the domain via script in each frame.  We had a case 
where we wanted sub1.domain.com to open a frame on sub2.domain.com - the solution (at least for 
IE) was to set the domain of the script on both pages to "domain.com"  (this solution is tolerable 
because it's an intranet application)

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:56:33 +0100
  Matt Barton <javascript at mattbarton.org> wrote:
> As long as the two frames are both displaying content from the same domain.  (Query: that is 
>still true isn't it?)
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> SkyScanner wrote:
>> Sure - just call parent.otherframename.myfunction();
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Terry Riegel" <riegel at clearimageonline.com>
>> To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at LaTech.edu>
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:57 PM
>> Subject: [Javascript] Fire up a function in another frame?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>Is there a way to run a function that exists in another frame?
>>>
>>>Terry
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Javascript mailing list
>>>Javascript at LaTech.edu
>>>https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
>>>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript
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From trojani2000 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 25 19:00:15 2005
From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 02:00:15 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Something better than... 2nd post
In-Reply-To: <37507.193.195.164.58.1130243388.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk>
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From iztok.polanic at amis.net  Wed Oct 26 08:08:57 2005
From: iztok.polanic at amis.net (Iztok Polanic)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:08:57 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] auto
In-Reply-To: <3DF0D6A1-4C50-4632-89DA-846033F4A49E@clearimageonline.com>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
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Message-ID: <435F7FE9.5080101@amis.net>

Hi!

How to dissable horizontal ruler in IE, when I set scrolling to "auto" 
in <iframe> tag? I tried all cained of stuff but none of them works.


Bye,

Iztok

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From Jan.Jursa at init.de  Wed Oct 26 11:32:55 2005
From: Jan.Jursa at init.de (Jursa, Jan (init))
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:32:55 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Tomcat SSJS
Message-ID: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380037E@dcs02.init.de>

Hi,

can i run server-side js on a tomcat server?

Could anybody give me a simple example?

Cheers,
j.




From junado at junado.com  Wed Oct 26 11:44:53 2005
From: junado at junado.com (Julien Nadeau)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:44:53 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] auto
In-Reply-To: <435F7FE9.5080101@amis.net>
References: <BAY19-F271E3EC5E621F0E33A4977A8860@phx.gbl>	<op.syt7nejfikej3k@soulcast>	<A519129A-CFCE-43A2-BE01-43B14031FBA3@clearimageonline.com>	<6.2.3.4.2.20051021234354.04d9aed0@mail.spamarrest.com>
	<3DF0D6A1-4C50-4632-89DA-846033F4A49E@clearimageonline.com>
	<435F7FE9.5080101@amis.net>
Message-ID: <2B95CED7-BC5E-4BDD-ACAE-9F1372FA4ECE@junado.com>

As far as I know, you cannot disable only one ruler. You can disable  
them all by setting the scrolling attribute to "none", you know how  
auto handles the content, and then there's "scroll" I think that will  
always show the scrollbars.

By the way, please stay on topic as this is a JavaScript mailing  
list. Thank you!

Julien Nadeau
junado at junado.com

Le 05-10-26 ? 09:08, Iztok Polanic a ?crit :

> Hi!
>
> How to dissable horizontal ruler in IE, when I set scrolling to  
> "auto" in <iframe> tag? I tried all cained of stuff but none of  
> them works.
>
>
> Bye,
>
> Iztok
>
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From hassan at webtuitive.com  Wed Oct 26 11:48:12 2005
From: hassan at webtuitive.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:48:12 -0700
Subject: [Javascript] Tomcat SSJS
In-Reply-To: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380037E@dcs02.init.de>
References: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380037E@dcs02.init.de>
Message-ID: <435FB34C.8070301@webtuitive.com>

Jursa, Jan (init) wrote:

> can i run server-side js on a tomcat server?

Nope, at least not out of the box -- you could conceivably write
your own servlet to interpret it :-)

FWIW!
-- 
Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com
Webtuitive Design ===  (+1) 408-938-0567   === http://webtuitive.com

                          dream.  code.




From riegel at clearimageonline.com  Wed Oct 26 14:21:21 2005
From: riegel at clearimageonline.com (Terry Riegel)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:21:21 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Javascript and Time Zones
In-Reply-To: <BAY19-F10C7BC7D9F19D4DA94084CA8690@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY19-F10C7BC7D9F19D4DA94084CA8690@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4715A539-A7C2-4613-9EB9-12A728A0EF16@clearimageonline.com>

Hello,

I have a web based TimeClock application. The time for punching in  
and out is stored on the server, I am looking for a simple way to  
display the time on the web page that would account for TimeZones and  
Daylight savings time. I wonder if there is a way to store the time  
in a hidden field as UTC, then let Javascript display it with the  
appropriate TimeZone / Daylight Savings Time adjustment?

My solution may not be the best way of solving the problem so I am  
open to any ideas on how I might accomplish this with Javascript or  
otherwise.


Terry Riegel


From wonsil at 4m-ent.com  Wed Oct 26 15:06:40 2005
From: wonsil at 4m-ent.com (Mark Wonsil)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:06:40 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Javascript and Time Zones
In-Reply-To: <4715A539-A7C2-4613-9EB9-12A728A0EF16@clearimageonline.com>
Message-ID: <010701c5da68$c7a43a90$7b01a8c0@WONSILT42>

> I have a web based TimeClock application. The time for punching in
> and out is stored on the server, I am looking for a simple way to
> display the time on the web page that would account for TimeZones and
> Daylight savings time. I wonder if there is a way to store the time
> in a hidden field as UTC, then let Javascript display it with the
> appropriate TimeZone / Daylight Savings Time adjustment?

This article may help you out:
http://willmaster.com/possibilities/archives/wmp20020730001.shtml




From jeffreyag at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 26 18:58:45 2005
From: jeffreyag at earthlink.net (jeffreyag at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:58:45 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] Tomcat SSJS
Message-ID: <380-2200510326235845318@M2W039.mail2web.com>


You could use Mozilla's Rhino Javascript engine
(http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/), which is written in Java, but you'll have
to do some work to get it to function with tomcat... at least, that's the
way it was last time I checked.


Original Message:
-----------------
From: Jursa, Jan (init) Jan.Jursa at init.de
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:32:55 +0200
To: javascript at LaTech.edu
Subject: [Javascript] Tomcat SSJS


Hi,

can i run server-side js on a tomcat server?

Could anybody give me a simple example?

Cheers,
j.


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From borchers at tridem.de  Thu Oct 27 04:55:38 2005
From: borchers at tridem.de (Michael Borchers)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:55:38 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] remember position in textarea
Message-ID: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E616@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>

i have a textarea and besides some links that will post data into the textarea.
at the moment the links post the data at the end of the textarea but i would
like it to parse the data at the place where the cursor stopped in the textarea.
 
possible?!
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From skyscanner at eircom.net  Thu Oct 27 05:06:36 2005
From: skyscanner at eircom.net (SkyScanner)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:06:36 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] remember position in textarea
References: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E616@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>
Message-ID: <002201c5dade$209bbf40$86882ec2@ic7g>

MessageAs your cursor moves through the text area, keep a variable that contains all the text so far. Then when you want to add text, add it to this variable (variable = front_variable + new + end_variable), then re-fill the text area from the variable.

Tim in Ireland.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Borchers 
  To: [JavaScript List] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:55 AM
  Subject: [Javascript] remember position in textarea


  i have a textarea and besides some links that will post data into the textarea.
  at the moment the links post the data at the end of the textarea but i would
  like it to parse the data at the place where the cursor stopped in the textarea.

  possible?!


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From borchers at tridem.de  Thu Oct 27 05:40:53 2005
From: borchers at tridem.de (Michael Borchers)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:40:53 +0200
Subject: AW: [Javascript] remember position in textarea
Message-ID: <D65A2FFABF2E054BB9D2559998663F0114E618@SF-EX2003.SF2003.de>

 

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu]Im Auftrag von SkyScanner
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 12:07
An: [JavaScript List]
Betreff: Re: [Javascript] remember position in textarea


As your cursor moves through the text area, keep a variable that contains all the text so far. Then when you want to add text, add it to this variable (variable = front_variable + new + end_variable), then re-fill the text area from the variable.
 
Tim in Ireland.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Michael  <mailto:borchers at tridem.de> Borchers 
To: [JavaScript List] <mailto:javascript at LaTech.edu>  
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: [Javascript] remember position in textarea

i have a textarea and besides some links that will post data into the textarea.
at the moment the links post the data at the end of the textarea but i would
like it to parse the data at the place where the cursor stopped in the textarea.
 
possible?!



  _____  




is there a modern DOM function for this, something like TextRange()?!

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From Jan.Jursa at init.de  Thu Oct 27 10:56:59 2005
From: Jan.Jursa at init.de (Jursa, Jan (init))
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:56:59 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] AJAX mailing list
Message-ID: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380038E@dcs02.init.de>

Hi,

which ajax mailing list can you recommend?
Do you use the yahoo list or is there a better one?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ajax_and_ria/

Cheers,
Jan




From vkanids at rednova.com  Thu Oct 27 12:14:48 2005
From: vkanids at rednova.com (vkanids at rednova.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:14:48 -0500
Subject: [Javascript] AJAX mailing list
In-Reply-To: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380038E@dcs02.init.de>
References: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380038E@dcs02.init.de>
Message-ID: <1130433288.43610b08c3653@webmail.rednova.com>

Quoting "Jursa, Jan (init)" <Jan.Jursa at init.de>:

> Hi,
> which ajax mailing list can you recommend?
> Do you use the yahoo list or is there a better one?
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ajax_and_ria/
> 
> Cheers,
> Jan
> 

Thanks for this -- I just joined.  :-)

There's also the AJAX_2-0 list also on Yahoo!, but I'm a new member there as
well so don't know of it's quality...

There's probably something on Google groups as well, but I haven't checked since
I don't like their lists as well as Yahoo!'s.

Cary




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From mwarden at gmail.com  Thu Oct 27 12:15:09 2005
From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:15:09 -0400
Subject: [Javascript] AJAX mailing list
In-Reply-To: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380038E@dcs02.init.de>
References: <6832E029DE22DC4D84AEC19887E07EA80380038E@dcs02.init.de>
Message-ID: <43610B1D.80108@gmail.com>

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Jursa, Jan (init) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> which ajax mailing list can you recommend?
> Do you use the yahoo list or is there a better one?
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ajax_and_ria/

ajax-web-technology on google groups.

hth,


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Miami University
Oxford, OH, USA
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From shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com  Fri Oct 28 01:08:00 2005
From: shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com (shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:38:00 +0530
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
Message-ID: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>


Hi All,

I have a hidden field

<input type="hidden" name="interface">

When I try and get its value using

    document.forms[0].interface.value;

I get this error:

    "Error: missing name after . operator"

This happens only in firefox and Netscape but not in IE.
Is interface an keyword.. and should it  not be used?
then why does not it throw an error in IE also..?

Please let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Shashidhar V





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From apwebdesign at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 28 05:29:00 2005
From: apwebdesign at yahoo.com (Anthony Ettinger)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 03:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
In-Reply-To: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
Message-ID: <20051028102901.42200.qmail@web51113.mail.yahoo.com>

<input id="interface" name="interface" type="hidden"/>

obj = document.getElementById("interface");
alert(obj.value);

--- shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com wrote:

> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have a hidden field
> 
> <input type="hidden" name="interface">
> 
> When I try and get its value using
> 
>     document.forms[0].interface.value;
> 
> I get this error:
> 
>     "Error: missing name after . operator"
> 
> This happens only in firefox and Netscape but not in
> IE.
> Is interface an keyword.. and should it  not be
> used?
> then why does not it throw an error in IE also..?
> 
> Please let me know your thoughts on this.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> Shashidhar V
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Confidentiality Notice
> 
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From liorean at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 08:20:20 2005
From: liorean at gmail.com (liorean)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:20:20 +0200
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
In-Reply-To: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
References: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
Message-ID: <cee13aa30510280620j75dcc698r@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/10/05, shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com
 <shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com> wrote:
> When I try and get its  value using
>      document.forms[0].interface.value;
> I get this  error:
>      "Error: missing name after . operator"

"interface" is indeed a future reserved keyword in ECMAScript. See the
end of this post for the full list.

You can easily fix this problem by using
    document.forms[0].elements['interface'].value
instead.

> This happens only  in firefox and Netscape but not in IE.
> Is interface an  keyword.. and should it  not be used?
> then why does not  it throw an error in IE also..?

Because JScript isn't 100% compliant to ECMAScript. (No JavaScript
engine is, but some are more and some are less compliant)




ECMAScript Language Specification Edition 3 24-Mar-00

7.5.2 Keywords
The following tokens are ECMAScript keywords and may not be used as
identifiers in ECMAScript programs.
Syntax

Keyword :: one of
break       else        new         var
case        finally     return      void
catch       for         switch      while
continue    function    this        with
default     if          throw
delete      in          try
do          instanceof  typeof

7.5.3 Future Reserved Words
The following words are used as keywords in proposed extensions and
are therefore reserved to allow for the
possibility of future adoption of those extensions.
Syntax

FutureReservedWord :: one of
abstract    enum        int         short
boolean     export      interface   static
byte        extends     long        super
char        final       native      synchronized
class       float       package     throws
const       goto        private     transient
debugger    implements  protected   volatile
double      import      public
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From dnunes at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 10:37:24 2005
From: dnunes at gmail.com (diego nunes)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:37:24 -0200
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
In-Reply-To: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
References: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
Message-ID: <14f57d420510280837y1cc69ea9y@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/10/05, shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com
<shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com> wrote:
> When I try and get its  value using
>      document.forms[0].interface.value;

    And, additionally, it's always good to emphasize the fact that
"document.forms[0].interface" IS NOT correct. It's not just another
way of getting the element; it's the way Microfost do. "interface" is
not a property of the object Form. IE always put the elements as
properties of its parents, but it's not the standard.
    You should use either "document.getElementByID" or "elements"
array (child of "form" object) to achieve what you want.

  Amplexos.

--
diego nunes


From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 11:01:05 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:01:05 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
References: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
	<14f57d420510280837y1cc69ea9y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000401c5dbd8$ce930e50$1301000a@persistenzl1>

Hi diego,

I disagree with your statement, The form collection object was here since 
the begining and all browser support it.
This also apply to document.images, document.links etc.. view here a full 
list of the document Object 
http://www.devguru.com/technologies/javascript/10629.asp
But since a few year a wider support to the DOM have been made available 
through the various browser and many people use document.getElementById
In some case the use of the DOM will not fit you requirement and 
document.forms collection will be what you need to use
We should not restrict our knowledge or our recommendation based on 
preferences in the way we code.

Regards

Laurent


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "diego nunes" <dnunes at gmail.com>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at latech.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator


On 28/10/05, shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com
<shashidhar.vutukuru at wipro.com> wrote:
> When I try and get its  value using
>      document.forms[0].interface.value;

    And, additionally, it's always good to emphasize the fact that
"document.forms[0].interface" IS NOT correct. It's not just another
way of getting the element; it's the way Microfost do. "interface" is
not a property of the object Form. IE always put the elements as
properties of its parents, but it's not the standard.
    You should use either "document.getElementByID" or "elements"
array (child of "form" object) to achieve what you want.

  Amplexos.

--
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From dnunes at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 11:31:15 2005
From: dnunes at gmail.com (diego nunes)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:31:15 -0200
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
In-Reply-To: <000401c5dbd8$ce930e50$1301000a@persistenzl1>
References: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com>
	<14f57d420510280837y1cc69ea9y@mail.gmail.com>
	<000401c5dbd8$ce930e50$1301000a@persistenzl1>
Message-ID: <14f57d420510280931o2fd683d6q@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/10/05, Laurent Muchacho <elmuchacho at gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree with your statement, The form collection object was here since
> the begining and all browser support it.

   I'm complaining about the use of neither "form" nor "elements"
collection. I'm just stating the using
"document.NAME_OF_FORM.NAME_OF_ELEMENT" is totally wrong, since the
"document" object shouldn't have a property named as the form -- nor
the form should have properties named as the elements.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear -- my English is not that good.

--
diego nunes


From elmuchacho at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 13:07:00 2005
From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:07:00 +0100
Subject: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator
References: <C50F80F196960146853F5490D580FC6E016DF2D9@blr-m1-msg.wipro.com><14f57d420510280837y1cc69ea9y@mail.gmail.com><000401c5dbd8$ce930e50$1301000a@persistenzl1>
	<14f57d420510280931o2fd683d6q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003301c5dbea$65f23710$1301000a@persistenzl1>

Hi

yes you right sorry if my email might have sounded a bit direct, english is 
neither my mother tongue.

Now to get back to the initial question.
Did a bit of research and the error appear in firefox for me too and return 
the same error
Mainly doing "document.forms[0].Interface.value" is not best practice but it 
should work then I remember the reserved javascript word et voila interface 
is a reserved keyword
found below a url who list them
http://javascript.about.com/library/blreserved.htm
But at my big surprised document is not a reserved word, Oh and using "top" 
for a function name, will cause you some problem on Mac safari (it took me a 
while to work that one out believe me you will remember interface from now 
on :-)

Then I try this just changed the word interface to Interface

<form>
<input type="hidden" name="Interface">
</form>
<script type="text/javascript">
alert(document.forms[0].Interface.value)
</script>

and it work fine

Regards

Laurent

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "diego nunes" <dnunes at gmail.com>
To: "[JavaScript List]" <javascript at latech.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Javascript] Error: missing name after . operator


On 28/10/05, Laurent Muchacho <elmuchacho at gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree with your statement, The form collection object was here since
> the begining and all browser support it.

   I'm complaining about the use of neither "form" nor "elements"
collection. I'm just stating the using
"document.NAME_OF_FORM.NAME_OF_ELEMENT" is totally wrong, since the
"document" object shouldn't have a property named as the form -- nor
the form should have properties named as the elements.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear -- my English is not that good.

--
diego nunes
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