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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Troy III progressive art enterprise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee? Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From micky at ambiguism.com Sun Mar 5 00:35:06 2006 From: micky at ambiguism.com (Michael Hulse) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:35:06 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <440a3adcbd898da28153833b6bbabe5e@ambiguism.com> On Mar 4, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Troy III Ajnej wrote: > Try changing, > >>

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Hi Troy, I really appreciate your help/the quick response... I tried what you suggested, but that actually makes the for display where I do not want it to. :( This page has a good description as to what the code does: My main problem is that the script does not work on form elements that are children DIVs contained within the cloned node "readroot". Basically I have a PHP email script that does not parse the dynamically generated form elements because they are not getting unique form name identifiers. Although, if I remove the DIVs that are wrapping my form elements my PHP email script works just fine. Hopefully I am not confusing anyone. :) Thanks again for your help. Cheers, Micky From trojani2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 5 00:49:26 2006 From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 06:49:26 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] How to create a web page that fits screensofallsizes via all In-Reply-To: <061d9cf0c2c011abad4c8e73ea25404e@datacompusa.com> Message-ID: There is a point where all of us will come to agree, the way the things were/are going, there will never be reached the point of rest in web design. >There has never been, and never will be a 'one size fits all' solution. >The best we can do is build in flexibility. >CSS3 allows for scaling background images. That's a good news, still, CSS3 will undergo a long and a lot of changes in proposals and acceptance/implementation before finally released. And still there is a question of backward compatibility to count for quite some time after its release. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Troy III progressive art enterprise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >CSS3 allows for scaling background images. >>-- >Roger Roelofs >Datacomp Appraisal Services > >_______________________________________________ >Javascript mailing list >Javascript at LaTech.edu >https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From trojani2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 5 01:06:46 2006 From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:06:46 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: <440a3adcbd898da28153833b6bbabe5e@ambiguism.com> Message-ID: I'm afraid that you can't point to any hidden elements of the page. Sorry, that's how i t works! >I tried what you suggested, but that actually makes the for display where I >do not want it to. :( That's almost obvious, but dit it at least make your script work? >My main problem is that the script does not work on form elements that are >children DIVs contained within the cloned node "readroot". I'm almost positive that there is now way to manipulate invisible elements before changing them back to visible. Can't add children to them, display: none makes a ghost element, yet it may react on click if hight and width specified. >Basically I have a PHP email script that does not parse the dynamically >generated form elements because they are not getting unique form name >identifiers. Although, if I remove the DIVs that are wrapping my form >elements my PHP email script works just fine. >Hopefully I am not confusing anyone. :) Not sure about that! Sorry, I didn't have time to look at the page you refferenced us before this reply. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Troy III progressive art enterprise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ? get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From micky at ambiguism.com Sun Mar 5 01:17:09 2006 From: micky at ambiguism.com (Michael Hulse) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:17:09 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90a4ad568a2816e652ad7f4faf2b21bf@ambiguism.com> On Mar 4, 2006, at 11:06 PM, Troy III Ajnej wrote: >> I tried what you suggested, but that actually makes the for display >> where I do not want it to. :( > That's almost obvious, but dit it at least make your script work? Hehe, sorry to state the obvious... :: blushes :: Unfortunately the JS still does not affect the nested form elements I mentioned even when I set 'readroot' to display: block. > I'm almost positive that there is now way to manipulate invisible > elements > before changing them back to visible. > Can't add children to them, display: none makes a ghost element, yet > it may react on click > if hight and width specified. Hmmm, interesting. That may explain a lot. :) > Not sure about that! Oh, no problem. I am sure I am just making a big noob mistake in my code somewhere. > Sorry, I didn't have time to look at the page you refferenced us > before this reply. No worries, I really appreciate all of your help. :) I will keep plugging-away at this. If I figure it out I will post the answer. Cheers, Micky -- ?.???`?.??><(((?>`?.??.???`?.??><((((?> ???`?.??.???`?.??.???`?.??.???`?.??><((((?> `?.??><((((?>?.???`?.??><((((?> From micky at ambiguism.com Sun Mar 5 04:59:44 2006 From: micky at ambiguism.com (Michael Hulse) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 02:59:44 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] [SOLVED] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33a6b3471d27247dc646a62ffea3b7c9@ambiguism.com> Actually, I just got it my code working by doing this: var counter = 0; function moreFields() { ????counter++; ????var newFields = document.getElementById('readroot').cloneNode(true); ????newFields.id = ''; ????newFields.style.display = 'block'; ????newFields.firstChild.nodeValue=counter + '. '; ????changeId(newFields, counter); ????var insertHere = document.getElementById('writeroot'); ????insertHere.parentNode.insertBefore(newFields,insertHere); } function delField() { ????var writeroot = document.getElementById('writeroot'); ????if(counter >= 1) { ????????writeroot.parentNode.removeChild(writeroot.previousSibling); ????????counter--; ????} } function changeId(r, c) { ????var rKids = r.getElementsByTagName('*'); ????var i = rKids.length; ????var rKid; ????while(i--) { ????????rKid = rKids[i]; ????????if (rKid.id) rKid.id = rKid.id + c; ????????if (rKid.name) rKid.name = rKid.name + c; ????} } //setTimeout(moreFields, 100); /*window.onload = moreFields;*/ event_attach('onload', moreFields); XHTML: Above seems to work... not yet fully tested. Thanks again for help. Cheers, Micky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2111 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mdougherty at pbp.com Sun Mar 5 09:41:13 2006 From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:41:13 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] How to create a web page that fits screens ofallsizes via all In-Reply-To: <061d9cf0c2c011abad4c8e73ea25404e@datacompusa.com> References: <061d9cf0c2c011abad4c8e73ea25404e@datacompusa.com> Message-ID: I was going to suggest Liquid Layout using CSS. (measure everything in em or %) Also it might be more realistic to abandon the notion of pixel-perfect display of your content. The move to "web2.0" is towards content separated from presentation so it can be easily repurposed. (ex: your content stream goes to an RSS aggregator, a cell phone/PDA, a printer or possibly even a web browser - the layout of your markup is dependant on the target application) If you're going to spend hours on the tedium of making either tactic work, the CSS design is more future oriented (can't call anything future 'proof') Once you suffer the pain of making a cross-browser CSS design, you can be relatively sure that it will survive for a while. If you have a complex javascript maintaining your page, there is a good chance that the first developer after you will be confused enough to just rip it out and do their own thing. (well, at least that's what I'd do) And for your own purpose, using CSS for layout/presentation will make future javascript more clean by keeping the presentation controls in CSS and the behavior in javascript. ex: rather than setting a dozen obj.style.property in your code, you can set obj.classname += 'newclass' and manage the definition of newclass in the style sheet. This also lets future updates to the look of the site be done by someone with no knowledge of javascript, and perhaps only basic knowledge of css. (keeping them away from your javascript means there is less chance they can break working code) If you are the only one doing the work from end to end, it might not seem important - but when you are working with others on a project it improves efficiency (to delivery date, and in debugging) to isolate responsibility to well encapsulated modules whenever possible. (my $0.02) On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 01:02:13 -0500 Roger Roelofs wrote: > Troy (and list), > > On Mar 4, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Troy III Ajnej wrote: > >> I guess that the point you were missing was the casse where all >> elements of the page created to be viewed on f.i. 1600x1200px monitor >> should perfectly fit in other lower/higher resolution monitors as >> well. All the gaphics paragraphs etc. At 1920x1440 or higher, the text >> size might become to small for reading and other elemends will tend to >> sllip in to fill empty space where not desired, etc., so the wholle >> layout will suffer. ... > > The first question is really what does 'all' mean. what about cell phones? What about browsers >with css or javascript, or images turned off? Anytime we do site design, we have to find out >what our users browse with and take that into account. There has never been, and never will be a >'one size fits all' solution. The best we can do is build in flexibility. > > If you have a css standards compliant browser you can do all this with no javascript. Even in >ie/win you can get 90% of the way there. I particularly like the percentage solution because it >already takes the window width and height into consideration. If you are worried about window >size vs font size, you can set min and max widths in ems to constrain line lengths. Keep in mind >that in css you can size anything (image, paragraph, flash object, etc) in percentages to get >size relative to the parent (and eventually the window), or in ems to keep the elements size >constant relative to the users' chosen font size. > > I realize that different screens have different dpi settings. But if I size all my text >relative to the browsers default font-size setting, the font should be a comfortable size no >matter what dpi the user has. Since, there is no correlation between screen size, dpi, and >browser window width/height, I can't reliably set the font size for the user based on any data >available in javascript. When you throw in users with multiple, different sized, monitors and >those 'pivotable' ones, things get even wierder. > > I can easily imagine using javascript to switch to higher-rez graphics on larger window sizes so >the graphic elements will look better. The size of the graphic can still be set in css, but you >would need a bit of javascript to change the image src, or add a class to an element so it pulls >in the higher resolution image file. Even this is problematic because there isn't a correlation >between screen/window size and available bandwidth. Everything's a trade-off I guess. > > Digression: If you want different layouts based on user window width, you can easily do that by >having javascript set a class on the body element after sniffing the window width/height. Media >queries would also work when support for them gets built in to more browsers. Also, since I'm in >future watch mode, CSS3 allows for scaling background images. If you are interested in what can >be done with css, and can stand yet another mailing list, wander over to css-discuss.org and >check out the archives, or join the list. > > As you've probably guessed by now, my standard operating procedure is to use css for >presentational stuff as much as possible with some javascript to provide a helping hand where >necessary. That gives javascript disabled users a good experience, and javascript enabled ones >an even better one. > > -- > Roger Roelofs > Datacomp Appraisal Services > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > > > __________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned by ATX > 1:03:16 AM ET - 3/5/2006 From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 5 09:44:53 2006 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:44:53 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] Anchor tags not working Message-ID: I am placing applications I have written inside hidden DIVs, and showing them by making the DIV visible. I have one application which works fine in one circumstance, but in another, the A tags don't function. I don't even know where to begin trouble shooting this peculiar problem. Fraser From mdougherty at pbp.com Sun Mar 5 09:58:28 2006 From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:58:28 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] Anchor tags not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I don't even know where to begin trouble shooting this peculiar problem. Without either a link to the page, neither do we :) On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:44:53 -0600 "Fraser Baker" wrote: > I am placing applications I have written inside hidden DIVs, and showing > them by making the DIV visible. I have one application which works fine in > one circumstance, but in another, the A tags don't function. I don't even > know where to begin trouble shooting this peculiar problem. > >Fraser > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > > > __________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned by ATX > 10:53:42 AM ET - 3/5/2006 From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 5 10:03:27 2006 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:03:27 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] Anchor tags not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK The website is at www.lifestylemonitor.info Login using 'demo' for user name and password. The application causing trouble is the Journal. There are several versions of the Journal in the website. To see a normally functioning Journal, click on Journal, then on Show Journal. To see the abnormally functioning Journal, click on Health, the roll over Medical Journal, then click on Show Journal. Note that in this version of the Journal, the link under a small part of the editor page icon (lower right) appears to be working. This website is under development and is not finished. I hope it works for you. Fraser -----Original Message----- From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu]On Behalf Of Mike Dougherty Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:58 AM To: [JavaScript List] Subject: Re: [Javascript] Anchor tags not working > I don't even know where to begin trouble shooting this peculiar problem. Without either a link to the page, neither do we :) On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:44:53 -0600 "Fraser Baker" wrote: > I am placing applications I have written inside hidden DIVs, and showing > them by making the DIV visible. I have one application which works fine in > one circumstance, but in another, the A tags don't function. I don't even > know where to begin trouble shooting this peculiar problem. > >Fraser > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > > > __________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned by ATX > 10:53:42 AM ET - 3/5/2006 _______________________________________________ Javascript mailing list Javascript at LaTech.edu https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript From trojani2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 5 13:32:25 2006 From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] [SOLVED] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: <33a6b3471d27247dc646a62ffea3b7c9@ambiguism.com> Message-ID: Sorry, I've just tested it. It doesn't work for me in either NN, FX nor IE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Troy III progressive art enterprise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >From: Michael Hulse >Reply-To: "\[JavaScript List\]" >To: "\[JavaScript List\]" >Subject: Re: [Javascript] [SOLVED] JS Help: Dynamic form control >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 02:59:44 -0800 > > Actually, I just got it my code working by doing this: > > > >var counter = 0; > >function moreFields() { >????counter++; >????var newFields = document.getElementById('readroot').cloneNode(true); >????newFields.id = ''; >????newFields.style.display = 'block'; >????newFields.firstChild.nodeValue=counter + '. '; >????changeId(newFields, counter); >????var insertHere = document.getElementById('writeroot'); >????insertHere.parentNode.insertBefore(newFields,insertHere); >} >function delField() { >????var writeroot = document.getElementById('writeroot'); >????if(counter >= 1) { >????????writeroot.parentNode.removeChild(writeroot.previousSibling); >????????counter--; >????} >} >function changeId(r, c) { >????var rKids = r.getElementsByTagName('*'); >????var i = rKids.length; >????var rKid; >????while(i--) { >????????rKid = rKids[i]; >????????if (rKid.id) rKid.id = rKid.id + c; >????????if (rKid.name) rKid.name = rKid.name + c; >????} >} >//setTimeout(moreFields, 100); >/*window.onload = moreFields;*/ >event_attach('onload', moreFields); > > > >XHTML: > > > > > > > >Above seems to work... not yet fully tested. > >Thanks again for help. >Cheers, >Micky >_______________________________________________ >Javascript mailing list >Javascript at LaTech.edu >https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From trojani2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 5 15:26:28 2006 From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:26:28 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: <90a4ad568a2816e652ad7f4faf2b21bf@ambiguism.com> Message-ID: >Hmmm, interesting. That may explain a lot. :) It does, but not to everyone. >Oh, no problem. I am sure I am just making a big noob mistake in my code >somewhere. You surely did! Of course, if your main posting purpose was not just having fun with us; Here is the working code for NN, FX and the doubted IE >From original quirksmode code, to error free... [There are other errors in this quirks code that I'm not willing to correct right now] HTML BODY SCRIPT var counter = 0; function moreFields() { counter++; var newFields = document.getElementById('readroot').cloneNode(true); newFields.id = ''; newFields.style.display = 'block'; var newField = newFields.childNodes; for (var i=0;i References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060305153042.049e0440@spamarrest.com> At 08:03 AM 3/5/2006, Fraser Baker wrote: >The website is at www.lifestylemonitor.info > >Login using 'demo' for user name and password. > >The application causing trouble is the Journal. There are several versions >of the Journal in the website. > >To see a normally functioning Journal, click on Journal, then on Show >Journal. > >To see the abnormally functioning Journal, click on Health, the roll over >Medical Journal, then click on Show Journal. Note that in this version of >the Journal, the link under a small part of the editor page icon (lower >right) appears to be working. Fraser, Ironically, the link appears to be active in Firefox but not in IE. (Ironic because your software recommends that the user view the site in IE.) Debugging this problem amid your very complex web application is daunting. What I'd do if I were you is start stripping elements from your page until the problem is easier to isolate. I've noticed in the past that anchors can be disabled in IE in certain circumstances if their CSS positioning is left static. You can remedy this by applying {position: relative} to the anchor or its container. See my comments in the CSS on this page: http://www.alistapart.com/d/multicolumnlists/example4.html Good luck, Paul From merchant at LATECH.EDU Sun Mar 5 18:00:31 2006 From: merchant at LATECH.EDU (David Merchant) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:00:31 -0600 Subject: ADMIN (Re: [Javascript] [SOLVED] JS Help: Dynamic form control) In-Reply-To: <33a6b3471d27247dc646a62ffea3b7c9@ambiguism.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060305175850.0259e210@mail.latech.edu> Folks: I just wanted to say I think posting solutions to questions/problems we have posted on the list, and clearly indicating the solution post in the subject line like this is a great idea that maybe we should try to do more often. TTFN, David -- Director of Integrated Technology CATALyST Louisiana Tech University catalyst.latech.edu From micky at ambiguism.com Sun Mar 5 20:47:20 2006 From: micky at ambiguism.com (Michael Hulse) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:47:20 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] [SOLVED] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3180e3cb660b5e4b30e6a710b1adf8d7@ambiguism.com> On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Troy III Ajnej wrote: > Sorry, I've just tested it. It doesn't work for me in either NN, FX > nor IE. Hmm, that is strange... I am on a Mac though (tested Safari/Firefox), and only tested it in IE6/PC, so it sounds like I am missing something... Here is the full code (Javascript is in external file): function event_attach(event, func) { if (window.attachEvent) { window.attachEvent(event, func); } else { if((typeof(func)).toLowerCase() != 'function') { return; } if((typeof(document.event_handlers)).toLowerCase() == 'undefined') { document.event_handlers = new Array(); } if((typeof(document.event_handlers[ event ])).toLowerCase() == 'undefined') { document.event_handlers[ event ] = new Array(); } if((typeof(eval('window.' + event))).toLowerCase() != 'function') { eval('window.' + event + ' = function () { if ((typeof(document.event_handlers[ \'' + event + '\' ])).toLowerCase() != \'undefined\') { for (i = document.event_handlers[ \'' + event + '\' ].length - 1 ; i >= 0 ; i--) { document.event_handlers[ \'' + event + '\' ][ i ](); } } } '); } document.event_handlers[ event ][ document.event_handlers[ event ].length ] = func; } } var counter = 0; function moreFields() { counter++; var newFields = document.getElementById('readroot').cloneNode(true); newFields.id = ''; newFields.style.display = 'block'; newFields.firstChild.nodeValue=counter + '. '; changeId(newFields, counter); var insertHere = document.getElementById('writeroot'); insertHere.parentNode.insertBefore(newFields,insertHere); } function delField() { var writeroot = document.getElementById('writeroot'); if(counter >= 1) { writeroot.parentNode.removeChild(writeroot.previousSibling); counter--; } } function changeId(r, c) { var rKids = r.getElementsByTagName('*'); var i = rKids.length; var rKid; while(i--) { rKid = rKids[i]; if (rKid.id) rKid.id = rKid.id + c; if (rKid.name) rKid.name = rKid.name + c; } } event_attach('onload', moreFields); XHTML: On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Troy III Ajnej wrote: > Here is the working code for NN, FX and the doubted IE Great! Perfect! Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate you time. :) I am glad to call this job done. ;) I hope that one day I can help you out. :D Have a great day, Cheers, Micky From trojani2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 5 23:25:14 2006 From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:25:14 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] [CLOSURE] JS Help: Dynamic form control In-Reply-To: <3180e3cb660b5e4b30e6a710b1adf8d7@ambiguism.com> Message-ID: >I really appreciate your time. :) > >I am glad to call this job done. ;) Yet again, when it comes to WEB I'm not sure enough. I begin to suspect that PPK did that deliberately. The major error was not in javascript but rather in HTML as far as IE radios were concerned. (IE was trying to behave strict) * * * [!There is a strage thing happening with the code in IE. For the 1st time I notice that IE is keeping two different/incoherent copies of the same dynamically created content and that this could cause some real serious problems to the coder...on this topic some other time] ----------- >I hope that one day I can help you out. :D I think you probably could give it a try. I did a search on the web, no true solution came out for now. :D I'd like this script to at least emulate IE in Firefox. Please see the code at my last "RE:disableselect in firefox" or ask me to repost it. I hate re-writing my scripts even if at that time it was meant to be IE only. "Some say: It's easy to say imposible" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Troy III progressive art enterprise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 6 03:12:11 2006 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 03:12:11 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] [RESOLVED BUT NOT UNDERSTOOD] Anchor tags not working In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060305153042.049e0440@spamarrest.com> Message-ID: Changing the order in which the DIVs are loaded impacts the functionality of the ANCHOR tags. By juggling the order, I was able to get all the anchors working. Makes me nervous though. Any insight into what is going on? Fraser -----Original Message----- From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu]On Behalf Of Paul Novitski Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:46 PM To: [JavaScript List] Subject: RE: [Javascript] Anchor tags not working At 08:03 AM 3/5/2006, Fraser Baker wrote: >The website is at www.lifestylemonitor.info > >Login using 'demo' for user name and password. > >The application causing trouble is the Journal. There are several versions >of the Journal in the website. > >To see a normally functioning Journal, click on Journal, then on Show >Journal. > >To see the abnormally functioning Journal, click on Health, the roll over >Medical Journal, then click on Show Journal. Note that in this version of >the Journal, the link under a small part of the editor page icon (lower >right) appears to be working. Fraser, Ironically, the link appears to be active in Firefox but not in IE. (Ironic because your software recommends that the user view the site in IE.) Debugging this problem amid your very complex web application is daunting. What I'd do if I were you is start stripping elements from your page until the problem is easier to isolate. I've noticed in the past that anchors can be disabled in IE in certain circumstances if their CSS positioning is left static. You can remedy this by applying {position: relative} to the anchor or its container. See my comments in the CSS on this page: http://www.alistapart.com/d/multicolumnlists/example4.html Good luck, Paul _______________________________________________ Javascript mailing list Javascript at LaTech.edu https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript From mdougherty at pbp.com Mon Mar 6 07:12:22 2006 From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:12:22 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] [RESOLVED BUT NOT UNDERSTOOD] Anchor tags not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you have duplicate ID? By changing the source order of the DIV, you are changing the relational order of their contents - perhaps your getElementById() call is reaching only the first of two elements? Keep in mind that IE treats name attributes as ID (yeah, it's dumb but what can you do) On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 03:12:11 -0600 "Fraser Baker" wrote: > Changing the order in which the DIVs are loaded impacts the functionality of > the ANCHOR tags. By juggling the order, I was able to get all the anchors > working. Makes me nervous though. Any insight into what is going on? > >Fraser > > -----Original Message----- >From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu > [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu]On Behalf Of Paul Novitski > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:46 PM > To: [JavaScript List] > Subject: RE: [Javascript] Anchor tags not working > > > At 08:03 AM 3/5/2006, Fraser Baker wrote: >>The website is at www.lifestylemonitor.info >> >>Login using 'demo' for user name and password. >> >>The application causing trouble is the Journal. There are several versions >>of the Journal in the website. >> >>To see a normally functioning Journal, click on Journal, then on Show >>Journal. >> >>To see the abnormally functioning Journal, click on Health, the roll over >>Medical Journal, then click on Show Journal. Note that in this version of >>the Journal, the link under a small part of the editor page icon (lower >>right) appears to be working. > > >Fraser, > > Ironically, the link appears to be active in Firefox but not in > IE. (Ironic because your software recommends that the user view the > site in IE.) > > Debugging this problem amid your very complex web application is > daunting. What I'd do if I were you is start stripping elements from > your page until the problem is easier to isolate. > > I've noticed in the past that anchors can be disabled in IE in > certain circumstances if their CSS positioning is left static. You > can remedy this by applying {position: relative} to the anchor or its > container. See my comments in the CSS on this page: > http://www.alistapart.com/d/multicolumnlists/example4.html > > Good luck, > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > > > __________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned by ATX > 4:21:01 AM ET - 3/6/2006 From list at tridemail.de Mon Mar 6 08:10:10 2006 From: list at tridemail.de (Michael Borchers) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:10:10 +0100 Subject: [Javascript] ending after for() in firefox Message-ID: <000701c64127$ae18d1f0$a924a8c0@mbpc> this script works fine in IE, the alerts after the for() are shown and even the new lines are created, but firefox seems to stop right after the for() in countRows(). what's wrong? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060306065503.030691a8@spamarrest.com> >On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 03:12:11 -0600 > "Fraser Baker" wrote: >>Changing the order in which the DIVs are loaded impacts the functionality of >>the ANCHOR tags. By juggling the order, I was able to get all the anchors >>working. Makes me nervous though. Any insight into what is going on? At 05:12 AM 3/6/2006, Mike Dougherty wrote: >Do you have duplicate ID? By changing the source order of the DIV, >you are changing the relational order of their contents - perhaps >your getElementById() call is reaching only the first of two >elements? Keep in mind that IE treats name attributes as ID (yeah, >it's dumb but what can you do) Fraser, Another thing to look for is a block element (such as a div) that's been allowed to overlay the anchor. This might be a div that comes after the anchor in the markup but is positioned above it in the layout ("above" in the sense of closer to the visitor's eye, not necessarily closer to the top of the page). Check for following block elements with position: relative or position: absolute and a higher z-index than your anchor. (A common way of deliberately disabling hyperlinks and form controls is to cover them with a transparent sheet of glass so they're visible but can't be touched by the mouse.) Also, I've found in the past that IE tends to mess up anchors when they're positioned absolutely, but I don't have documentation of that bug at my fingertips. Paul From paul at novitskisoftware.com Mon Mar 6 09:22:29 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:22:29 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] ending after for() in firefox In-Reply-To: <000701c64127$ae18d1f0$a924a8c0@mbpc> References: <000701c64127$ae18d1f0$a924a8c0@mbpc> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060306070637.03075340@spamarrest.com> At 06:10 AM 3/6/2006, Michael Borchers wrote: >this script works fine in IE, the alerts after the for() are shown >and even the new lines are created, but firefox seems to stop >right after the for() in countRows(). > >what's wrong? Michael, Here's your bug: HTML: JavaScript: if(inputFields[i].getAttribute("name").substring(0,8) == "options[") The if-test assumes that every input field has a "name" attribute (your first button doesn't) and that the name will be at least 8 characters ("insert" is only 6). When your script reaches your first button (value="Optionen hinzufügen") it attempts to execute the substring() method on a non-existent string object and fails. For more robust code, and for ease of debugging, I like to break up those long expressions into their component parts. For one thing, it lets you insert alert() statements into incremental bits of logic to pinpoint exactly where your script fails. for(i=0;i= 8 && inputFields[i].getAttribute("name").substring(0,8) == "options[") { ... } (I can't recall if the substring() method will abort JavaScript if operating on too short a string, but it doesn't hurt to play it safe if you're not sure.) Regards, Paul From schalk at volume4.com Wed Mar 8 04:46:42 2006 From: schalk at volume4.com (Schalk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:46:42 +0200 Subject: [Javascript] object vs.embed Message-ID: <440EB612.7020608@volume4.com> Greetings All! When using object to embed a Flash object. Is it possible to make this work without using embed as well? Can one use embed alone without object? I know this works but is it correct or should a embed tag always be wrapped in an object tag? If this is not the best place to ask these questions please let me know of a list or forum where this will be more appropriate. Thanks! -- Kind Regards Schalk Neethling Web Developer.Designer.Programmer.President Volume4.Business.Solution.Developers From sclay at ufl.edu Wed Mar 8 08:37:52 2006 From: sclay at ufl.edu (Steve Clay) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:37:52 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] object vs.embed In-Reply-To: <440EB612.7020608@volume4.com> References: <440EB612.7020608@volume4.com> Message-ID: <18310092922.20060308093752@ufl.edu> Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 5:46:42 AM, Schalk wrote: > When using object to embed a Flash object. Is it possible to make this > work without using embed as well? Can one use embed alone without AFAIK this is the only way to reliably get (mostly) universal browser support without the invalid EMBED element: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ But more on-topic (and particularly with the EOLAS fallout on its way) I'd recommend just using this excellent Javascript Flash embedder: http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/ Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ From elmuchacho at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 05:02:32 2006 From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:02:32 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] Object literal toString Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I'm trying to return an Object as a literal string following the examples in this page http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Reference:Global_Objects:Object:toSource An examples page I built following the references above http://www.be-lovely.com/code_pool/examples/object_literal_toSource.htm It work fine in Firefox, but unfortunately not in other browser does anyone know a cross browser way to do this. Many Thanks From list at tridemail.de Tue Mar 14 05:53:03 2006 From: list at tridemail.de (Michael Borchers) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:53:03 +0100 Subject: [Javascript] escaping ( Message-ID: <000d01c6475d$da231260$a924a8c0@mbpc> i parse a string into a prompt() box including a ( and ), the function to parse get's it this way: prompt_link('xxxxxx(yyyy)zzzz') the debugger tells me "expecting ( in line...", can i escape the ( with \( or similar? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trojani2000 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 14 06:54:14 2006 From: trojani2000 at hotmail.com (Troy III Ajnej) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:54:14 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] escaping ( In-Reply-To: <000d01c6475d$da231260$a924a8c0@mbpc> Message-ID: The prompt('xxxxxx(yyyy)zzzz') will work fine. What do you mean with: >the function to parse get's it this way: >prompt_link('xxxxxx(yyyy)zzzz') is it a function name??? >can i escape the ( with \( or similar? I think that you can't use any *special character* inside the function brackets. What are you trying to do? Why don't you use a proper var name instead? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Troy III progressive art enterprise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From sclay at ufl.edu Tue Mar 14 07:35:31 2006 From: sclay at ufl.edu (Steve Clay) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:35:31 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] Object literal toString In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1610181623.20060314083531@ufl.edu> Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 6:02:32 AM, Laurent Muchacho wrote: > http://www.be-lovely.com/code_pool/examples/object_literal_toSource.htm toSource() was added in JS1.3 and apparently never adopted in IE/Opera. > anyone know a cross browser way to do this. The JSON.stringify() method might be a good enough approximation of toSource(). You'll get an eval()-able string of properties, but I don't know if methods are preserved. Give it a shot. Info: http://www.json.org/js.html Script: http://www.json.org/json.js Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ From elmuchacho at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 09:25:04 2006 From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:25:04 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] Object literal toString In-Reply-To: <1610181623.20060314083531@ufl.edu> References: <1610181623.20060314083531@ufl.edu> Message-ID: Many thanks Steve I did knew about JSON but was trying a work around. I end up using json in the end. Laurent On 3/14/06, Steve Clay wrote: > > Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 6:02:32 AM, Laurent Muchacho wrote: > > http://www.be-lovely.com/code_pool/examples/object_literal_toSource.htm > > toSource() was added in JS1.3 and apparently never adopted in IE/Opera. > > > anyone know a cross browser way to do this. > > The JSON.stringify() method might be a good enough approximation of > toSource(). You'll get an eval()-able string of properties, but I don't > know if methods are preserved. Give it a shot. > Info: http://www.json.org/js.html > Script: http://www.json.org/json.js > > Steve > -- > http://mrclay.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ From paul at novitskisoftware.com Wed Mar 15 11:12:00 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:12:00 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] enabling print stylesheets on screen In-Reply-To: <1597608.20060315115208@ufl.edu> References: <1597608.20060315115208@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060315090718.049c58c8@spamarrest.com> At 08:52 AM 3/15/2006, Steve Clay wrote: >I want to dynamically load any print media CSS files as screen files >as a sort of emulation of "print preview". I realize I won't be able to >affect any @media print {} blocks, but I'm willing to live with that. Without testing, I'd guess that if you linked your stylesheets like this: ...then you could use JavaScript to modify the media attribute, changing "print" to "screen" and "screen" to "xscreen" (or something else that would be ignored). Paul From mdougherty at pbp.com Wed Mar 15 12:36:55 2006 From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:36:55 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] enabling print stylesheets on screen In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060315090718.049c58c8@spamarrest.com> References: <1597608.20060315115208@ufl.edu> <6.2.3.4.2.20060315090718.049c58c8@spamarrest.com> Message-ID: how about this: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:12:00 -0800 Paul Novitski wrote: > At 08:52 AM 3/15/2006, Steve Clay wrote: >>I want to dynamically load any print media CSS files as screen files >>as a sort of emulation of "print preview". I realize I won't be able to >>affect any @media print {} blocks, but I'm willing to live with that. > > > Without testing, I'd guess that if you linked your stylesheets like this: > > > > > ...then you could use JavaScript to modify the media attribute, changing "print" to "screen" and >"screen" to "xscreen" (or something else that would be ignored). > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > > > __________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned by ATX > 12:12:36 PM ET - 3/15/2006 From elmuchacho at gmail.com Fri Mar 24 05:04:40 2006 From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:04:40 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event Message-ID: Hi Does anyone know a good reference or have a nice examples to catch the keystroke ctrl+s in the browser I wrote this simple function but everytime the browser try to do a save. This only need to work in firefox. To explain why I want to do this if anyone is interested, On our cms everytime you edit a piece of text you have to click the save button and I'm starting to get tired of this everytime I thought of catching the ctrl+s and submiting the form automaticly :-) Many thanks function keyDown(e) { var keycode = e.which if(keycode==17){ document.onkeydown = trigger_ctrlS; return true } } function trigger_ctrlS(e){ var keycode = e.which if(keycode==83){ alert("ctrl s: ") document.onkeydown = keyDown return true } } document.onkeydown = keyDown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at nickfitz.co.uk Fri Mar 24 05:42:25 2006 From: nick at nickfitz.co.uk (Nick Fitzsimons) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:42:25 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> > Hi > > Does anyone know a good reference or have a nice examples to catch the > keystroke ctrl+s in the browser > I wrote this simple function but everytime the browser try to do a save. > > > function keyDown(e) { > var keycode = e.which > if(keycode==17){ > document.onkeydown = trigger_ctrlS; > return true > } > } > function trigger_ctrlS(e){ > var keycode = e.which > if(keycode==83){ > alert("ctrl s: ") > document.onkeydown = keyDown > return true > } > } > document.onkeydown = keyDown The usual way of cancelling the default action for an event is to return false from the event handler; try changing your "return true;" in the above to "return false;" and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, as you say it's for Firefox, try visiting the Firefox/Mozilla developers site: explains the "preventDefault" method, which might do what you want. HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ From elmuchacho at gmail.com Fri Mar 24 06:54:13 2006 From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:54:13 +0000 Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event In-Reply-To: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> References: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Nick, Yes this is what I thought originally and try this approach but with no success. I didn't know about the preventDefault method but this, neither seems to be able to stop the default save as window to open. Many thanks for your help If anyone got an idea let it come :-) function keyDown(e) { if(e.ctrlKey){ document.onkeydown = trigger_ctrlS; } } function trigger_ctrlS(e){ var keycode = e.which if(keycode==83){ alert("ctrl s"); return false } } document.onkeydown = keyDown Laurent On 3/24/06, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know a good reference or have a nice examples to catch the > > keystroke ctrl+s in the browser > > I wrote this simple function but everytime the browser try to do a save. > > > > > > > function keyDown(e) { > > var keycode = e.which > > if(keycode==17){ > > document.onkeydown = trigger_ctrlS; > > return true > > } > > } > > function trigger_ctrlS(e){ > > var keycode = e.which > > if(keycode==83){ > > alert("ctrl s: ") > > document.onkeydown = keyDown > > return true > > } > > } > > document.onkeydown = keyDown > > > The usual way of cancelling the default action for an event is to return > false from the event handler; try changing your "return true;" in the > above to "return false;" and see if that helps. > > If that doesn't work, as you say it's for Firefox, try visiting the > Firefox/Mozilla developers site: > > explains the "preventDefault" method, which might do what you want. > > HTH, > > Nick. > -- > Nick Fitzsimons > http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lester Novros II) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:25:52 +0100 Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event In-Reply-To: References: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> Message-ID: <44240170.9090505@denhaag.org> Dear Laurent, Laurent Muchacho wrote: > If anyone got an idea let it come :-) This should do it on both Apple and Intel platforms [tested in Firefox/Safari/xPloder - Linux/Mac OS X/windoze]: window.onkeydown = function(event) { // normalize event event = event || window.event; // check for the 's'- and command-|control-keys if (event.keyCode == 83 && (navigator.platform == 'MacPPC' ? event.metaKey : event.ctrlKey)) { alert('saving...'); // insert your saving routine here return false; } // pass thru original keypress return true; } Would you want it to work in xPloder as well, be aware that it needs 'document.onkeydown' rather than the standard 'window.onkeydown'; specifying both results in Firefox calling the function twice. I'll leave Opera as an exercise to the reader since it wouldn't co-operate with the above code [it still passes the event] in the limited amount of time I had available. l8R lES -- m$ has a note for this xPloder bug on its website with a description and offers a workaround. It states: "This behavior is by design." The offered workaround does not help at all. http://www.denhaag.org From del at delweg.com Sun Mar 26 14:51:25 2006 From: del at delweg.com (Del Wegener) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:51:25 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form Message-ID: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> Good Day; Upon submission of a form I would like two actions to happen: action="/cgi-bin/bizdb-aed.cgi" to put the contents of the form in a database action=https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr How do I accomplish this? I am guessing JavaScript -- that's why I tried this list. Thanks for any help. Del From paul at novitskisoftware.com Sun Mar 26 15:26:44 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:26:44 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form In-Reply-To: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> References: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060326132250.048bce40@spamarrest.com> At 12:51 PM 3/26/2006, Del Wegener wrote: >Upon submission of a form I would like two actions to happen: >action="/cgi-bin/bizdb-aed.cgi" to put the contents of the form >in a database >action=https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr > >How do I accomplish this? > >I am guessing JavaScript -- that's why I tried this list. Del, I don't know of a way to insert data in a database using JavaScript, which is prevented from writing to files on the client computer for security reasons and has no way to write to files on the server because it's running on the client. I'd say what you want to do is submit your form to a server-side script (PHP etc.) that writes values to the database then redirects to the destination page. Regards, Paul From mwarden at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 16:05:12 2006 From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:05:12 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form In-Reply-To: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> References: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> Message-ID: On 3/26/06, Del Wegener wrote: > Good Day; > > Upon submission of a form I would like two actions to happen: > action="/cgi-bin/bizdb-aed.cgi" to put the contents of the form in a > database > action=https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr > > How do I accomplish this? > > I am guessing JavaScript -- that's why I tried this list. > > Thanks for any help. Often you can make a return page from payment sites like paypal. These will either post back all the content, or return it to you in the query string. You might be able to do this with paypal. I would check that first. Failing that, you might have your cgi issue a post request to paypal. This is not ideal, because paypal is probably expecting to be dealing with the user agent of your customer, whereas in this case the user agent would be your cgi script. This could cause problems. Your other option is to submit to the form contents to your CGI with something like XMLHTTP/AJAX, and then allow the form to post to paypal. Something like:
function postToCGI() { // do ajax to post to CGI with XMLHTTP/XmlHttpRequest return true; } -- Matt Warden Miami University Oxford, OH, USA http://mattwarden.com This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. From paul at novitskisoftware.com Sun Mar 26 16:06:41 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:06:41 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060326132250.048bce40@spamarrest.com> References: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> <6.2.3.4.2.20060326132250.048bce40@spamarrest.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060326135205.04aaac78@spamarrest.com> >At 12:51 PM 3/26/2006, Del Wegener wrote: >>Upon submission of a form I would like two actions to happen: >>action="/cgi-bin/bizdb-aed.cgi" to put the contents of the >>form in a database >>action=https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr >> >>How do I accomplish this? >> >>I am guessing JavaScript -- that's why I tried this list. At 01:26 PM 3/26/2006, Paul Novitski wrote: >Del, > >I don't know of a way to insert data in a database using JavaScript, >which is prevented from writing to files on the client computer for >security reasons and has no way to write to files on the server >because it's running on the client. > >I'd say what you want to do is submit your form to a server-side >script (PHP etc.) that writes values to the database then redirects >to the destination page. Sorry, Del, I answered too quickly. You've already got a CGI script writing to the database. If this functions like most server-side scripts, you can redirect to the paypal page from the CGI script after it's written to the db. If you can't do this for some reason and you really need to execute two requests from your page of origin, then yes, you could do this from JavaScript. One way to do it would be to trigger the CGI with an image url + querystring, such as: var oImg = new Image; oImg.src = "/cgi-bin/bizdb-aed.cgi?field1=datum1&field2=datum2"; Use JavaScript to build the querystring, create the image object, and set the image src. There will of course be no image file that results, but the HTTP request will execute in real time. Then you can redirect the user to the destination page: document.location.href = "https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr"; and you're done. Paul From paul at novitskisoftware.com Sun Mar 26 17:04:57 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:04:57 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form In-Reply-To: References: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060326144247.049f4120@spamarrest.com> At 02:05 PM 3/26/2006, Matt Warden wrote: >Often you can make a return page from payment sites like paypal. These >will either post back all the content, or return it to you in the >query string. You might be able to do this with paypal. I would check >that first. You can do this, however if something goes wrong before the return page renders -- either the user cancels the transaction or PayPal fails or the return page redirect fails for any reason -- then the original client's system will not know that a transaction attempt has occurred. Better, I think, to record the submit attempt and the paypal return event to get the complete picture, so you can scoop up those customers who fall through the cracks. >Your other option is to submit to the form contents to your CGI with >something like XMLHTTP/AJAX, and then allow the form to post to >paypal. I had suggested using an Image object simply because I thought it would be more backward- and cross-browser compatible than XmlHttpRequest. Since in this case the goal of calling the CGI script is to send data and not to receive it, I question the use a technology created to receive data that only the latest browsers support. On the other hand -- what happens when the CGI script detects errors in the input data? How does it notify the user? That senario argues for a data flow model that requires the server-side script to execute successfully BEFORE submitting the form to paypal. I'd check the PayPal documentation to see if their engine can be engaged by both GET or POST. If so, it would be simple enough to use redirect from CGI instead of submit from the original HTML. Another model I prefer is to submit the form to a server-side script for validation & database writing, then if all is OK generate a confirmation page for the user that displays the order information and contains hidden fields with all the PayPal data fields, with a submit button to proceed. Such a confirmation page can be comforting for the user and developer alike. Regards, Paul From mwarden at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 20:36:18 2006 From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:36:18 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060326144247.049f4120@spamarrest.com> References: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> <6.2.3.4.2.20060326144247.049f4120@spamarrest.com> Message-ID: <44274FA2.1050303@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul Novitski wrote: > At 02:05 PM 3/26/2006, Matt Warden wrote: > >> Often you can make a return page from payment sites like paypal. These >> will either post back all the content, or return it to you in the >> query string. You might be able to do this with paypal. I would check >> that first. > > > You can do this, however if something goes wrong before the return page > renders -- either the user cancels the transaction or PayPal fails or > the return page redirect fails for any reason -- then the original > client's system will not know that a transaction attempt has occurred. > > Better, I think, to record the submit attempt and the paypal return > event to get the complete picture, so you can scoop up those customers > who fall through the cracks. This is exactly what I was suggesting. Paypal would return the user to a page on the client's site, hopfully with all the post data as payload on the request, where you may do what you wish with the data. Verisign's payflow product does, and paypal probably does as well. >> Your other option is to submit to the form contents to your CGI with >> something like XMLHTTP/AJAX, and then allow the form to post to >> paypal. > > > I had suggested using an Image object simply because I thought it would > be more backward- and cross-browser compatible than XmlHttpRequest. > Since in this case the goal of calling the CGI script is to send data > and not to receive it, I question the use a technology created to > receive data that only the latest browsers support. Actually, I question your assertion that XMLHTTP/XmlHttpRequest was created to receive data. It is for two-way communication, just as normal http requests are. Additionally, the Image.src hack will work only if limiting oneself to passing get request data is acceptable. And if this is the case, then there's no problem in the first place, as a simple http redirect will do the trick. - -- Matt Warden Miami University Oxford, OH, USA http://mattwarden.com This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEJ0+irI3LObhzHRMRAjkcAJ4kz7DoYXQV5bLVmiBFGKuqoGjADQCbBTgQ Ib/JLhcdwPA5g7YLbkJyers= =tPpm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul at novitskisoftware.com Sun Mar 26 21:15:59 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:15:59 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] Two Actions with one form In-Reply-To: <44274FA2.1050303@gmail.com> References: <001601c65117$0e8f5550$37b90a47@delweg> <6.2.3.4.2.20060326144247.049f4120@spamarrest.com> <44274FA2.1050303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060326191021.04866f60@spamarrest.com> At 06:36 PM 3/26/2006, Matt Warden wrote: >Paul Novitski wrote: > > At 02:05 PM 3/26/2006, Matt Warden wrote: > > > >> Often you can make a return page from payment sites like paypal. These > >> will either post back all the content, or return it to you in the > >> query string. You might be able to do this with paypal. I would check > >> that first. > > > > > > You can do this, however if something goes wrong before the return page > > renders -- either the user cancels the transaction or PayPal fails or > > the return page redirect fails for any reason -- then the original > > client's system will not know that a transaction attempt has occurred. > > > > Better, I think, to record the submit attempt and the paypal return > > event to get the complete picture, so you can scoop up those customers > > who fall through the cracks. > >This is exactly what I was suggesting. Paypal would return the user to a >page on the client's site, hopfully with all the post data as payload on >the request, where you may do what you wish with the data. Verisign's >payflow product does, and paypal probably does as well. Yes, PayPal does allow you to specify a return page. I wouldn't guarantee that return succeeding, however, if I wanted to secure my customers. > >> Your other option is to submit to the form contents to your CGI with > >> something like XMLHTTP/AJAX, and then allow the form to post to > >> paypal. > > > > > > I had suggested using an Image object simply because I thought it would > > be more backward- and cross-browser compatible than XmlHttpRequest. > > Since in this case the goal of calling the CGI script is to send data > > and not to receive it, I question the use a technology created to > > receive data that only the latest browsers support. > >Actually, I question your assertion that XMLHTTP/XmlHttpRequest was >created to receive data. It is for two-way communication, just as normal >http requests are. Sorry if I wasn't clear. A technology created to send and receive data is in fact intended to receive data, and that was the portion of the truth I was pointing to. >Additionally, the Image.src hack will work only if limiting oneself to >passing get request data is acceptable. And if this is the case, then >there's no problem in the first place, as a simple http redirect will do >the trick. That's correct. On the other hand, if the client has images turned off, my suggestion will fail. Warm regards, Paul From Info at Abyss.ws Sun Mar 26 21:56:41 2006 From: Info at Abyss.ws (Abyss - Information) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:56:41 +1000 Subject: [Javascript] online tutorials or books Message-ID: <003601c65152$7dc5f010$6401a8c0@hawkeye> does anyone know of any good "easy to understand - yet covering the advanced" use of javascript books? Regards, Abyss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elmuchacho at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 04:34:40 2006 From: elmuchacho at gmail.com (Laurent Muchacho) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:34:40 +0100 Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event In-Reply-To: <44240170.9090505@denhaag.org> References: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> <44240170.9090505@denhaag.org> Message-ID: Hi Thanks for the piece of, As you said this does work but it doesn't stop firefox from opening the "Save Page As" window control. If you know a way to prevent this from opening it will be great Many thanks for your help Laurent On 3/24/06, J. Lester Novros II wrote: > > Dear Laurent, > > Laurent Muchacho wrote: > > If anyone got an idea let it come :-) > > This should do it on both Apple and Intel platforms [tested in > Firefox/Safari/xPloder - Linux/Mac OS X/windoze]: > > window.onkeydown = > function(event) > { > // normalize event > event = event || window.event; > > // check for the 's'- and command-|control-keys > if (event.keyCode == 83 && (navigator.platform == 'MacPPC' ? > event.metaKey : > event.ctrlKey)) > { > alert('saving...'); > // insert your saving routine here > return false; > } > > // pass thru original keypress > return true; > } > > Would you want it to work in xPloder as well, be aware that it needs > 'document.onkeydown' rather than the standard 'window.onkeydown'; > specifying > both results in Firefox calling the function twice. > > I'll leave Opera as an exercise to the reader since it wouldn't co-operate > with > the above code [it still passes the event] in the limited amount of time I > had > available. > > l8R lES > -- > m$ has a note for this xPloder bug on its website with a description and > offers > a workaround. It states: "This behavior is by design." The offered > workaround > does not help at all. > > http://www.denhaag.org > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From java.script at seacrets.com Mon Mar 27 05:14:30 2006 From: java.script at seacrets.com (Cutter) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:14:30 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] online tutorials or books In-Reply-To: <003601c65152$7dc5f010$6401a8c0@hawkeye> References: <003601c65152$7dc5f010$6401a8c0@hawkeye> Message-ID: <4427C916.8090607@seacrets.com> Outstanding resource (from a guy who used to contribute here daily): http://www.quirksmode.org/ Cutter P.S. Don't do the domain without the www. (What's up with that PPK?) Abyss - Information wrote: > does anyone know of any good "easy to understand - yet covering the > advanced" use of javascript books? > > > Regards, > Abyss > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > From vkanids at rednova.com Mon Mar 27 06:49:21 2006 From: vkanids at rednova.com (vkanids at rednova.com) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:49:21 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] online tutorials or books In-Reply-To: <4427C916.8090607@seacrets.com> References: <003601c65152$7dc5f010$6401a8c0@hawkeye> <4427C916.8090607@seacrets.com> Message-ID: <1143463761.4427df51e64bb@webmail.rednova.com> Quoting Cutter : > Outstanding resource (from a guy who used to contribute here daily): > http://www.quirksmode.org/ > > Cutter > > P.S. Don't do the domain without the www. (What's up with that PPK?) > > Abyss - Information wrote: > > does anyone know of any good "easy to understand - yet covering the > > advanced" use of javascript books? > > > > > > Regards, > > Abyss > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Well, I have quite a few online tutorial sites bookmarked for my own reference. I've never been all the way through any of them, so I can't give a firm recommendation as to which tutorial is "better". The first seems to be the most comprehensive, however... http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/javascript.html http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp http://www.devguru.com/technologies/javascript/home.asp http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:JavaScript http://www.webreference.com/javascript/reference/core_ref/ http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/programming/javascript/tutorials/jstutorial_index.html Cary ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using RedOrbit Email. Get your free account today. http://www.redorbit.com/ From flavio at economisa.com.br Mon Mar 27 07:28:39 2006 From: flavio at economisa.com.br (Flavio Gomes) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:28:39 -0300 Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event In-Reply-To: References: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> <44240170.9090505@denhaag.org> Message-ID: <4427E887.70609@economisa.com.br> In GMail you can use Ctrl+I, Ctrl+U, Ctrl+B for formatting your rich text e-mails I tried for some time to find the code, but it was pretty complicated. If you have the time and skills, check it there and then post it here, ok? Laurent Muchacho escreveu: > Hi > > Thanks for the piece of, As you said this does work but it doesn't > stop firefox from opening the "Save Page As" window control. > > If you know a way to prevent this from opening it will be great > > Many thanks for your help > > Laurent > > On 3/24/06, *J. Lester Novros II* > wrote: > > Dear Laurent, > > Laurent Muchacho wrote: > > If anyone got an idea let it come :-) > > This should do it on both Apple and Intel platforms [tested in > Firefox/Safari/xPloder - Linux/Mac OS X/windoze]: > > window.onkeydown = > function(event) > { > // normalize event > event = event || window.event ; > > // check for the 's'- and command-|control-keys > if (event.keyCode == 83 && (navigator.platform == 'MacPPC' ? > event.metaKey : > event.ctrlKey)) > { > alert('saving...'); > // insert your saving routine here > return false; > } > > // pass thru original keypress > return true; > } > > Would you want it to work in xPloder as well, be aware that it needs > 'document.onkeydown' rather than the standard ' window.onkeydown'; > specifying > both results in Firefox calling the function twice. > > I'll leave Opera as an exercise to the reader since it wouldn't > co-operate with > the above code [it still passes the event] in the limited amount > of time I had > available. > > l8R lES > -- > m$ has a note for this xPloder bug on its website with a > description and offers > a workaround. It states: "This behavior is by design." The offered > workaround > does not help at all. > http://www.denhaag.org > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Javascript mailing list >Javascript at LaTech.edu >https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > -- Flavio Gomes flavio at economisa.com.br From dnunes at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 08:33:39 2006 From: dnunes at gmail.com (diego nunes) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:33:39 -0300 Subject: [Javascript] Keystroke event In-Reply-To: <4427E887.70609@economisa.com.br> References: <37281.193.195.164.58.1143200545.squirrel@www.easilymail.co.uk> <44240170.9090505@denhaag.org> <4427E887.70609@economisa.com.br> Message-ID: <14f57d420603270633m31deec70ic9e1ba2c278ddbc9@mail.gmail.com> On 3/27/06, Flavio Gomes wrote: > > Thanks for the piece of, As you said this does work but it doesn't > > stop firefox from opening the "Save Page As" window control. Have you tried.. try { event.preventDefault(); } catch(e) { } finally { event.returnValue=false; } return false; ? -- diego nunes dnunes.com From sclay at ufl.edu Mon Mar 27 11:33:06 2006 From: sclay at ufl.edu (Steve Clay) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:33:06 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] test in Safari/IE mac Message-ID: <105564529.20060327123306@ufl.edu> Hello, Would anyone care to test out a couple scripts in Safari/IE mac? http://mrclay.org/js/bookmarklets/test.php A couple of the scripts at the top of the page have been "bookmarkletized" and are in the lipsum text in the 1st paragraph. Particularly give the "printPreview" bookmarklet a spin on some sites that have print CSS. Commented source: http://mrclay.org/js/bookmarklets/printPreview.js The "click2keep" bookmarklet uses the print preview then allows you to click elements to select them and "zap" everything else from the page. Commented source: http://mrclay.org/js/bookmarklets/click2keep.js Thanks! Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ From moore.scott at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 14:32:35 2006 From: moore.scott at gmail.com (Scott Moore) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:32:35 -0600 Subject: [Javascript] ISO unobtrusive JS way to change body class Message-ID: I'm working on a proof of concept for a navigation system and am in need of some help. At the moment, I've got this code:

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The idea is when you hover over an option, the JS changes the class of the body tag and the associated sub-menu is displayed. However, when you roll off an option, the class of the body tag doesn't return to it's original setting. Now for each section, I could create a separate nav file and add onMouseout="document.body.className='current_section'" to each link, but that's too messy and I want to have only 1 nav file. So with the intention of following the idea of unobtrusive JS, I don't believe I'm heading in the right direction by using onMouseover. Can anyone point me in the direction I should be going a cleaner solution? Scott From mdougherty at pbp.com Mon Mar 27 14:59:41 2006 From: mdougherty at pbp.com (Mike Dougherty) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:59:41 -0500 Subject: [Javascript] ISO unobtrusive JS way to change body class In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you seen this:? http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/000050.php On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:32:35 -0600 Scott Moore wrote: > I'm working on a proof of concept for a navigation system and am in need of some help. At the >moment, I've got this code: > > >
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> > The idea is when you hover over an option, the JS changes the class of the body tag and the >associated sub-menu is displayed. However, when you roll off an option, the class of the body >tag doesn't return to it's original setting. Now for each section, I could create a separate >nav file and add onMouseout="document.body.className='current_section'" to each link, but >that's too messy and I want to have only 1 nav file. > > So with the intention of following the idea of unobtrusive JS, I don't believe I'm heading in >the right direction by using onMouseover. Can anyone point me in the direction I should be going >a cleaner solution? > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > Javascript mailing list > Javascript at LaTech.edu > https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript > > > > __________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned by ATX > 3:33:17 PM ET - 3/27/2006 From paul at novitskisoftware.com Mon Mar 27 15:15:40 2006 From: paul at novitskisoftware.com (Paul Novitski) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:15:40 -0800 Subject: [Javascript] ISO unobtrusive JS way to change body class In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060327131527.04c718c0@spamarrest.com> At 12:32 PM 3/27/2006, Scott Moore wrote: >The idea is when you hover over an option, the JS changes the class >of the body tag and the associated sub-menu is displayed. However, >when you roll off an option, the class of the body tag doesn't return >to it's original setting. Now for each section, I could create a >separate nav file and add >onMouseout="document.body.className='current_section'" to each link, >but that's too messy and I want to have only 1 nav file. > >So with the intention of following the idea of unobtrusive JS, I >don't believe I'm heading in the right direction by using >onMouseover. Can anyone point me in the direction I should be going a >cleaner solution? Hi Scott, Part of the concept of unobtrusive javascript includes placing ALL javascript outside the HTML file. If you embed it in your tags inline, a browser that doesn't support scripting or doesn't support a modern version of scripting could crash; plus from a management perspective you have to modify your HTML file any time you need to modify your script. Isolating your script in an external file is definitely the way to go, linked to your page with a