[Javascript] using CSS [WAS: Printing a Form]

[Del Wegener]

Thanks Paul;
You comments and references are very helpful.  I found and subscribed to 
css-discuss last night.  In the future I will take my CSS questions there.
Your comments about the use of tables, especially re two (four) column forms 
is reassuring. I have rarely used tables for page layout.

Your comment "If I had to produce this particular menu " seems strange. 
Don't you do this kind of menu frequently?  Many of my site owners require 
that kind of menu.  I do not like the slow load time, the license conditions 
etc. that go with the particular menu cited in my first e-mail.
That is why I would like to find a better way -- faster, easy to maintain, 
and with ME in control.

Thanks again Paul.  Now I think I will go to Amazon and buy some books--Eric 
Meyer and/or O'Reilly come to mind.  Would you suggest any others?

Del


> At 4/7/2007 12:17 PM, Del Wegener wrote:
>>Perhaps you could point me to something (preferably online) less than a 
>>full-blown course or text on CSS ( I have some of those) where I could 
>>quickly and easily learn how to replace tables with CSS.
>
> CSS is off-topic for this list, but here's a CSS listserve I heartily 
> recommend:
> http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
>
> Their wiki has loads of great links:
> http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
>
> To get started using CSS to style lists as menus, check out MaxDesign:
> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
>
>
>>I am not sure why everyone thinks tables are evil, I think they are pretty 
>>slick.
>
> It's not really that anyone thinks tables are evil, it's that tables are 
> appropriate for marking up tabular data, inappropriate for marking up 
> non-tabular data, and inappropriate for solving problems of page layout.

> Using a table to mark up a column of labels from a column of input fields 
> sounds reasonable to me,
>>What about menus like the one I used here
>>http://www.edi-cp.com/topframeset.htm?/newsite/apps/apps_introduction.htm
>>Can that be done better and easier with CSS ?
>
> You can format the nested menu using CSS -- and without that very long 
> loading delay.  The slow sliding behavior requires javascript or Flash or 
> Java, etc.  Having the menu respond to a click event requires either a 
> server-side script such as PHP or a client-side script such as javascript.
>
> If I had to produce this particular menu I would mark it up as listed 
> unordered lists and style it with CSS; I'd drive the menu with a 
> server-side script that would work in the absence of javascript; and when 
> javascript is running I'd use it to do the slidey bit, still using CSS for 
> all the styling.  That approach is called 'progressive enhancement' and 
> ensures that the
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul