[Javascript] Microsoft proprietary DOM vs Standards (Was: IE work-a-round question (re: checkbox

[Troy III Ajnej]

I still don't see "MyElement" shorthand anywhere
 (1997-2008 == more than a decade). 
> Generating global variables, which might conflict with built ins, > simply by associating an HTML document with a JavaScript program is a > good way to generate confusing bugs during development and make > maintenance a pain.
I don't see how could a refference to the doc element have to do anything with 
associating HTML with Javascript or messing anything else up!
 
> DOM 1 reached recommendation status in 1998
Sorry but I don't recall if it's first recommendation included the "document.getElemen..."
statement in its apearence. It was DOM Level 2 that invented e different statement for 
the same purpose and reached recommendation status only a month before 2001. Almost 
3 years after referencing element by ID has become a true empiricall standard for coders 
around the world. W3C did everything to avoid adapting this exellent syntax, simply because
it was an IE invention. 
Eventhough FX didn't hesitate to implement it, but did it maliciously. Same goes with 
the famous .innerHTML. 
 
> It lent itself to write-only code, they didn't consult with anyone > before implementing it, the standards group (including Microsoft) came > up with something better.
 
:) Like What?
And what do you understand with "write-only"? What do you mean with
"they didn't consult with anyone"? 
 
Do you understand that this acusation is a direct answer to the 
question: -Who was, and still is hollding up the web???
 
Don't forget that it was only in December 1997 that HTML 4.0 added support for tables. 
Can you imagine? -Tables! 
 
W3C recommended "document.getElement" a month before 2001, while 
IE4-was allready three years old and running. 
 
So it was, still is, and allways will be, W3C.
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                                        Troy III                            progressive art enterprise~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



> From: david at dorward.me.uk> To: javascript at lists.evolt.org> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:59:11 +0100> Subject: [Javascript] Microsoft proprietary DOM vs Standards (Was: IE work-a-round question (re: checkboxes))> > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 06:02, Troy III Ajnej wrote:> > Yeah, so was the IE, direct element refferencing> > Generating global variables, which might conflict with built ins, > simply by associating an HTML document with a JavaScript program is a > good way to generate confusing bugs during development and make > maintenance a pain.> > > , a decade older than W3C > > document.getElementById(MyElement).style.something.> > Internet Explorer 1.0 was released in 1995> > JavaScript was first seen on the web in 1996> > Internet Explorer 3.0 arrived in 1996 and was the first version to > include support for client side scripting.> > DOM 1 reached recommendation status in 1998> > Where does this "decade" fit in?> > > It was more readable, more easy, more flexy, more reliable, more > > everything...> > by simply stating: MyElement.style.smashIt, but what happened?> > It lent itself to write-only code, they didn't consult with anyone > before implementing it, the standards group (including Microsoft) came > up with something better.> > -- > David Dorward> http://dorward.me.uk/> http://blog.dorward.me.uk/> > > _______________________________________________> Javascript mailing list> Javascript at lists.evolt.org> http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/javascript
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