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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Troy</st1:place></st1:City>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This may help if I can&#8217;t find a more
direct way of getting these measurements or accomplishing my goal in another
manner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Really I am hoping to find some sort of
property that I can query to get these values on the fly or a different way to
resize a window.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks though, I very well may end up
using these values<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Geoff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
javascript-bounces@LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces@LaTech.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Troy III Ajnej<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 24, 2006 5:02
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> [JavaScript List]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Javascript] Resizing
browser window</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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These are the measures that my pilot-probe-object is reporting for the width of
client area in the following <br>
browsers on Windows platform:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Browser:&nbsp;&nbsp;Explorer 6&nbsp;Navigator 8&nbsp;Opera 9&nbsp;&nbsp;Firefox
1.5<br>
&nbsp;<br>
-------BROWSER MAXIMIZED-------<br>
my screen&nbsp;1920&nbsp;&nbsp;1920&nbsp;&nbsp;1920&nbsp;&nbsp;1920 px<br>
--------------<br>
scrl Off&nbsp;-1916&nbsp;&nbsp;-1920&nbsp;&nbsp;-1914&nbsp;&nbsp;-1920<br>
scrl on&nbsp;&nbsp;-1900&nbsp;&nbsp;-1904&nbsp;&nbsp;-1898&nbsp;&nbsp;-1904<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
delta off&nbsp;-4&nbsp;&nbsp;-0&nbsp;&nbsp;-6&nbsp;&nbsp;-0<br>
delta on&nbsp;-20&nbsp;&nbsp;-16&nbsp;&nbsp;-22&nbsp;&nbsp;-16<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
-------BROWSER RESTORED-------<br>
Window 1/2&nbsp; &nbsp;960&nbsp;&nbsp;960&nbsp;&nbsp;960&nbsp;&nbsp;960 px<br>
--------------<br>
scrl off&nbsp;948&nbsp;&nbsp;952&nbsp;&nbsp;946&nbsp;&nbsp;952<br>
scrl on&nbsp;&nbsp;932&nbsp;&nbsp;936&nbsp;&nbsp;930&nbsp;&nbsp;936<br>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
delta off&nbsp;12&nbsp;&nbsp;8&nbsp;&nbsp;14&nbsp;&nbsp;8&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
delta on&nbsp;28&nbsp;&nbsp;24&nbsp;&nbsp;30&nbsp;&nbsp;24<br>
&nbsp;<br>
-------BROWSER RESTORED-------<br>
Window 1/3&nbsp; &nbsp;640&nbsp;&nbsp;640&nbsp;&nbsp;640&nbsp;&nbsp;640 px<br>
--------------<br>
scrl off&nbsp;628&nbsp;&nbsp;632&nbsp;&nbsp;626&nbsp;&nbsp;632<br>
scrl on&nbsp;&nbsp;612&nbsp;&nbsp;616&nbsp;&nbsp;610&nbsp;&nbsp;616<br>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
delta off&nbsp;12&nbsp;&nbsp;8&nbsp;&nbsp;14&nbsp;&nbsp;8<br>
delta on&nbsp;28&nbsp;&nbsp;24&nbsp;&nbsp;30&nbsp;&nbsp;24<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
So this means that scrollbars are always 16 pixels by windows default settings<br>
Variabile is the space used by window borders:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
SCROLLBARS OFF<br>
IE when Maximized&nbsp;takes 4 px for the border<br>
NN takes null<br>
Op takes 6<br>
Fx takes null<br>
&nbsp;<br>
[and these are the values of your interest]<br>
Restored <br>
IE=12<br>
NN=8<br>
OP=14<br>
Fx=8<br>
*These results are scientifically exact*<br>
Sorry about Safari I don't have it. <br>
And hope this is what you asked for ;)<br>
Now you do the math...<br>
<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;progressive&nbsp;art&nbsp;enterprise<br>
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&gt; From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">geoffreyk@seanet.com</st1:PersonName><br>
&gt; To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">javascript@LaTech.edu</st1:PersonName><br>
&gt; Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:38:39 -0700<br>
&gt; Subject: [Javascript] Resizing browser window<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;
First&nbsp;off,&nbsp;let&nbsp;me&nbsp;state&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;want&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;this,&nbsp;and&nbsp;have&nbsp;tried&nbsp;to<br>
&gt;
convince&nbsp;the&nbsp;decision&nbsp;makers&nbsp;that&nbsp;this&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;bad&nbsp;idea,&nbsp;but&nbsp;to&nbsp;no&nbsp;avail.&nbsp;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;
At&nbsp;a&nbsp;certain&nbsp;point&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;application&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;working&nbsp;on,&nbsp;I&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;shrink<br>
&gt;
the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;browser&nbsp;and&nbsp;open&nbsp;a&nbsp;new,&nbsp;small&nbsp;browser&nbsp;window&nbsp;next<br>
&gt;
to&nbsp;it.&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;having&nbsp;some&nbsp;troubles&nbsp;getting&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;browser&nbsp;window.&nbsp;I<br>
&gt;
can&nbsp;get&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;viewport,&nbsp;but&nbsp;not&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;including&nbsp;scrollbars<br>
&gt; and&nbsp;browser&nbsp;frame.&nbsp;The&nbsp;heart&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;trouble&nbsp;is&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;get&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of<br>
&gt;
the&nbsp;viewport,&nbsp;but&nbsp;can&nbsp;only&nbsp;set&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;browser&nbsp;window.&nbsp;Is&nbsp;there&nbsp;a<br>
&gt;
way&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;browser&nbsp;window&nbsp;and/or&nbsp;set&nbsp;the&nbsp;width&nbsp;of&nbsp;the<br>
&gt; viewport&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;browser&nbsp;will&nbsp;resize&nbsp;around&nbsp;it?&nbsp;I&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;support&nbsp;ie6,&nbsp;FF<br>
&gt; and&nbsp;Safari.&nbsp;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks&nbsp;for&nbsp;any&nbsp;help<br>
&gt; -Geoff<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Javascript&nbsp;mailing&nbsp;list<br>
&gt; Javascript@LaTech.edu<br>
&gt; https://lists.LaTech.edu/mailman/listinfo/javascript<br>
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