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<body>Hi there! <FONT color=#808080>(Since you ask)</FONT><BR>
I would have never arisen this <FONT color=#808080>(theoretical)</FONT> problem <FONT color=#808080>(which is rarely</FONT><BR>
<FONT color=#808080>a practical one)</FONT>, if it wasn't for that error <FONT color=#808080>(in "<FONT>doctype")</FONT></FONT> that caused <BR>
my <FONT color=#808080>(strict&valid <FONT>html401)</FONT></FONT> marquee example to completely fail rendering!<BR>
I knew that my code, copy-pasted exactly as is/was, would've worked in all <BR>
browsers down to at least generation IV, <FONT color=#808080>(well, some of them)</FONT>. It was <BR>
your, incorrect copy-paste of already correct doctype declaration that made me<BR>
wonder and suspect in UTF-8 <FONT color=#808080>misinterpretation of byte order from Mac to PC</FONT>,<BR>
or my browser interpreting your US ASCII encoded document as <FONT>UTF-8</FONT><BR>
to be the cause. Of course, it seemed to me very far fetched possibility, <BR>
but that was the only cause remaining, considering that my code<BR>
was extremly clean from top to the bottom and nowhere else to look.<BR>
<BR>
<EM>Now back to the theme</EM><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<FONT color=#808080>quote:</FONT><BR>
I don't think he is confused, but rather we (or least me) fall short <BR>on fully understanding what's going on. There are things working in <BR>the background that are not obvious to me.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
At this point, I don't think he is confused (excuse my previous euphemism),<BR>
he is in total error. <BR>
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<FONT color=#808080>quote:</FONT><BR>
<P dir=ltr>Whereas: At 8/13/06 Rasmus Lerdorf (the founder of php) wrote:<BR>By the way, everyone should be setting a charset. If you don't set <BR>it, IE will look at the first 4k of the body of the page and take a <BR>wild guess.</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><EM>I hopefuly think that:</EM></P>
This might be his lexical mistake, wrong use of the word <STRONG>setting, </STRONG>otherwise<BR>
he is talking nonsense out of a clear sky. <BR>
Mislead by the term "charset" he drove the conclusion for himself that one can<BR>
really <STRONG>set</STRONG> character encoding through meta tag descriptions from within the document.<BR>
Rasmus Lerdorf, the Founder of PHP is basing his advices on his clear assumptions?<BR>
This is hilarious!<BR>
Of course, what he really meant was: declaring; that is: describing; pointing the browser<BR>
at what <FONT>charset w</FONT>as used to encode the content of the document! Nothing more, nothing less.<BR>
Never the less, neither this is completely true! <BR>
<FONT color=#808080>In real world:</FONT><BR>
It's the Server who instructs the browser on how to read the stream. But who am I to tell.<BR>
The next attempt to decode will be from the browser side if on default mode <FONT color=#808080>(Auto-Select).</FONT><BR>
<EM></EM> <BR>
<EM>Don't let me get to far</EM><BR>
<FONT color=#3a3a3a>But I really don't know why does he have to mention IE for this matter? Because I happen to</FONT><BR>
<FONT color=#3a3a3a>know that IE scans the document twice top to bottom - bottom to top before rendering.</FONT><BR>
<FONT color=#3a3a3a>To cut the story short please visit:</FONT><BR>
<A href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#doc-char-set">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#doc-char-set</A><BR>
or strait to the section: <A href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.2">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.2</A> or #5.2.2<BR>
Here you will find all the informations needed regarding this topic.<BR>
We are already way off javascripting issues!<BR>
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<FONT color=#808080>quote:</FONT><BR>
...I'm also not sure as to how to save a document as UTF-8 encoding in the first <BR>place.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P dir=ltr>I've already explained that twice in my previous posts.</P>
<P dir=ltr><EM><FONT color=#c0c0c0>Rasmus, you might be the founder of <FONT>PHP, but it was volunteers work who created it.</FONT></FONT></EM><BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR> Troy III<BR> progressive art enterprise<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P><br /><hr />Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. <a href='http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d' target='_new'>Windows Live Mail.</a></body>
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