[steering] DRAFT - Call for vote

[John Handelaar]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Burns" <martin@easyweb.co.uk>
To: <steering@lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [steering] DRAFT - Call for vote


> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, javier velasco wrote:
>
> > - Transform members.evolt.org into something that is more of a community
> > building service (evolters.org), while doing the best to offer painless
> > transfer (away) options to our current m.e.o. users.
>
> Needs the specific info there that the new service will be paid for, and
> will be the major contributor towards funding evolt.org.

Ya see, but:  *this* point kinda slipped in there somehow when I
wasn't paying attention.  So far I'm seeing a great idea, but not
something which anyone's convincing me will be paid for.

So until I hear an explanation, -1 on that amend, sorry.  I'll bore
you momentarily with why:

I have this test I use with clients who say they've got Idea X  for a
website and they'll be charging for membership.  It's called the 'would
you do this test'.  Early on with ABCtales.com the founders tried this
on, got the 'Test Question' and said 'why yes, of course we would'.
And then they got the follow-up question:  "Really? How many site
memberships do you pay for now, porn excluded?"

Bzzzt.

Charge for entry to evolters.org at this time, it will fail.  Charge for
entry to *any* site whose features, let alone benefits, are undecided,
and it too will fail.  So far I'm seeing nothing that our 'core' users
don't already have in spades.

Again, I want to see evolters.  But I don't think it's wise to confuse
donations (possible) with sales of a product nobody will buy (forget it).

eouk is paid for by (iirc) 4 people.  Are there really not 8 people out
of our thousands who would do the same?  And - here's the one I
absolutely cannot understand - why the feck haven't we *asked* them?
Chucking a usually-missed footer on the messages does *not* cut it,
IMHO.

jh