[steering] DRAFT - Call for vote

[Martin Burns]

On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15  am, John Handelaar wrote:

>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, javier velasco wrote:
>>
>>> - Transform members.evolt.org into something that is more of a
>>> community
>>> building service (evolters.org), while doing the best to offer
>>> painless
>>> transfer (away) options to our current m.e.o. users.
>>
>> Needs the specific info there that the new service will be paid for,
>> and
>> will be the major contributor towards funding evolt.org.
>
> Ya see, but:  *this* point kinda slipped in there somehow when I
> wasn't paying attention.  So far I'm seeing a great idea, but not
> something which anyone's convincing me will be paid for.
>
> I have this test I use with clients who say they've got Idea X  for a
> website and they'll be charging for membership.  It's called the 'would
> you do this test'.  Early on with ABCtales.com the founders tried this
> on, got the 'Test Question' and said 'why yes, of course we would'.
> And then they got the follow-up question:  "Really? How many site
> memberships do you pay for now, porn excluded?"
>
> Charge for entry to evolters.org at this time, it will fail.

John

I'm not talking about 'membership to view the site'. I'm talking about
effectively paying for hosting of some specific community tools.

> Charge for
> entry to *any* site whose features, let alone benefits, are undecided,
> and it too will fail.

Obviously the features will not be undecided at the time it opens.

>   So far I'm seeing nothing that our 'core' users don't already have in
> spades.

So why have meo members felt a need to use meo as a production hosting
of photo albums & blogs? I don't know what the financials are for f2o,
but I imagine that the front page price of $7 a month and up is not
there for show.

> eouk is paid for by (iirc) 4 people.  Are there really not 8 people out
> of our thousands who would do the same?

OK, you come up with the donations, guaranteed for a year, and we can
look at making it free to members.

Cheers
Martin
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