[steering] Moving Forward

[Martin Burns]

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, .jeff wrote:

> martin,
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> > From: Martin Burns
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> > > I think it is generally accepted, without working out
> > > the details of full functionality (thetips,
> > > archiving), to move the lists to e.o.uk. b.e.o is
> > > already there, or at least a mirror.
> >
> > Should be doable very quickly.
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> john may disagree after his trials and tribulations with css-discuss.

Possibly, but the trials were in replacing sendmail with qmail and other
associated stuff with getting mailman up and running on a Cobalt RaQ.

sidebar: {If we do end up at Rackshack, let's go for a non-RaQ, eh?
They're good for what they're intended for, but that's not what we need}

> > Jeff - the best understanding I have is that it's "a
> > lot" of work. How much is that in man/days, and how much
> > time do you have to give it over the next 6 weeks?
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> it's too slow to check files over ftp to get a good grasp on the total
> number of templates that need work, but with my existing knowledge of the
> applications, i'd estimate about 3-4 man days to migrate the database to
> another platform.
>
> i have at least that much time between now and our deadline to put into this
> task.

OK, cool.

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> > > I think, we should try to make the changes so that
> > > future porting will be database independent, i.e.,
> > > don't use INDENTITY, AUTO-INCREMENT, SEQUENCES, etc.
> > > if possible.
> >
> > Totally agree - it also lets us start work before the
> > final platform decision.
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> well, database abstraction to the level suggested isn't easy.  right now we
> simply don't have a large enough window to do it right.  so, rather than
> futzing around with something that will be a moot point once we settle on db
> platform for weo, i'd rather put a shorter amount of time into porting the
> existing to work with a set db platform in the interim.

OK. Suggest sysadmin get to work rsn with desdev's input on that choice.

Cheers
Martin


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