[Sysadmin] [ronr at linuxdude.com: bounces]

[David A. Ulevitch]

Just do this:

1) ns1.evolt.org is master DNS server but not listed as a delegated 
nameserver for evolt.org
2) ns{1-4}.everydns.net are listed as the delegated nameservers for 
evolt.org but they are configured as slaves of ns1.evolt.org

That way you completely make changes on ns1.evolt.org and have a full 
copy of your bind zone or djbdns zone but you also get the full power 
of everydns.net's global network.

If we ever disappear (no way), you still have your original zones.

Plus, right now the web interface is semi-realtime whereas secondary 
service has about a 60 minute delay.  Moving evolt.org to a secondary 
setup might motivate me to make the secondary service support NTFY and 
become just as real-time as the web interface. :)

Sorry for top posting but it was too hard to cut up your reply since it 
was just one long 'graph. :) [and I'm lazy!]

-davidu


On Dec 5, 2004, at 6:41 AM, William Anderson wrote:

> David Kaufman wrote:
>> William Anderson <neuro at well.com> wrote:
>>> David Kaufman wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... I've have all of my domains on EveryDNS for
>>>> over a year and have been 100% satisfied with the top-notch service
>>>> David runs there.  Is there some configuration option you can't do
>>>> through the EveryDNS.net web interface?
>>>
>>> I think we need to have local multiple-hands control over our DNS.
>> Don't we?  EveryDNS has a web interface.  Don't we have a login?  If
>> not, then we should.  As I mentioned in my post I have a great,
>> easy-to-use web interface to manage the DNS for all my domains on
>> EveryDNS.  I can edit zone files by hand, and configure tinydns data
>> files too, but when you gotta make a change fast, I've found DavidU's
>> web-based front-end hard to beat.
>> So, just to confirm, is the problem that we have evolt DNS pointed at
>> EveryDNS, a fantastic web-based DNS editor, but then we rely on David 
>> U.
>> alone to manually make any changes for us?  If so, perhaps we can get
>> him to throw us a username and password to the uber-cool DNS control
>> panel, so that the next time we wanna setup a newthing.evolt.org in 
>> the
>> middle of the night we can, and need neither wake up DavidU nor set 
>> up a
>> DNS server to do it...
>
> OK, here's my take ...
>
> I have no problem with everydns.  Someone at my work told me yesterday 
> in the absence of information (a communications vacuum), people just 
> make stuff up to fill the blanks :)  everydns is fine, I have no 
> probs.  However, as an utterly paranoid bastard, I'd much prefer it if 
> we ran bind locally on tempest (which we do now) and can make changes 
> fast from anywhere in the world.  Tapping keys is always faster than a 
> web interface IME, no offence to davidu and everydns.
>
> Yes, it's maybe hardcore sysadmin indulgence and snobbery to consider 
> a web interface to something as fundamental as our DNS information as 
> being ... well, unpleasant and not nearly enough geeky to be usable, 
> but hey that's just me.  I spend time during my day making DNS changes 
> using our own bespoke DNS interface to zones we (my employer) manage 
> or own simply because it's The Best Way To Do It In Our Environment.  
> I just feel comfortable looking at zone files for bind and seeing any 
> hiccups when doing /etc/init.d/bind reload && tail -f 
> /var/log/daemon.log :)
>
> If there's a majority overrule here, then so be it and I'll use the 
> web interface, but I personally would just feel better (again 
> absolutely no insult intended to davidu and everydns) if we had 
> primary control on tempest.  By all means have everydns slaving off 
> tempest and providing primary/secondary(/tertiary/etc!) public name 
> service for evolt.org and evolters.org, but I would just feel better 
> ... I said that already :)
>
> Quick vote?  I understand that John's not here, but there's enough of 
> us to make some sort of interim decision at any rate, yes?
>
> Howabout +1 for what I've suggested above, -1 if you disagree, and an 
> assumption that you'd rather go with everydns as complete 
> authoritative primary and point-of-management too unless you give an 
> alternative alongside your -1 ...
>
> I think it's a given I'm +1ing my own suggestion :)
>
> Thoughts and/or votes please?
>
> -- 
> _ __/|  William Anderson      | "There's something about records which 
> is
> \`O_o'  neuro at well dot com |  really satisfying."
> =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/   |     -- John Peel (1939 - 2004)
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> so, are we gonna get this vote on for the EvoltSysadmin mascot or what?
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