[Sysadmin] Fwd: (evolt related) Fwd: [WD]: Use of "no-reply" email address

[Martin Burns]

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> From: Garrett Coakley
> Date: 3 December 2007 19:33:50 GMT
> To: Martin Burns
> Subject: (evolt related) Fwd: [WD]: Use of "no-reply" email address
>
>
> I can't remember who's looking after the mail server now, but Steve  
> Champeon just posted this to the wd list. His 3rd paragraph.  
> Probably want to forward it on the sysadmin list.
>
> G.
>
>
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>> From: "[wd] List Mom"
>> Date: 30 November 2007 23:02:15 GMT
>> To: list at webdesign-l.com
>> Subject: Re: [WD]: Use of "no-reply" email address
>>
>> on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 04:43:47PM -0500, Ian Smith-Dahl wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
>>> Google is often the thought-leader in our industry, but in this case
>>> I think that their tremendous size forces them into bad practices.
>>
>> I dunno about size, but they definitely do some insanely stupid  
>> things
>> with email. Like excluding the point of origin IP address from the
>> Received headers in webmail (for privacy!) but not from mail injected
>> via SMTP (because, um, privacy doesn't matter there?) so it's  
>> impossible
>> to reject Nigerian 419 scams based on origin alone, which practice  
>> lets
>> us reject almost all of the 419 scams we see here. And, of course,  
>> those
>> injected into Google via SMTP:
>>
>> Received, arg1= from bruno ( [87.9.226.163])\n\tby mx.google.com with
>> ESMTPS id 12sm8201813fgg.2007.11.30.10.48.02\n\t(version=SSLv3
>> cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:48:04 -0800 (PST),
>> relay=tempest.evolt.org [67.19.100.194], reject=554 5.1.8 RCD419G
>> Contact postmaster at hesketh.net if this is in error, but your  
>> message was
>> rejected as a likely variant of a Nigerian 419 scam.
>>
>> In that case, it was Italian IP via /evolt/, for crying out loud.
>> If there's anyone here from evolt, go kick your postmaster - you're
>> relaying for criminals.
>>
>> Apple and Amazon used to send their newsletters and junk from
>> MAILER-DAEMON, for Pete's sake - not even the true null sender <>,  
>> but
>> the arbitrary string some MTAs replace <> with upon acceptance. Maybe
>> that was just a flaw in their internal relay system, I dunno. But  
>> still
>> stupid.
>>
>> In any case, this is drifting off topic and just getting me riled up
>> thinking about, so ... :)
>>
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