[Theforum] IRC Bot - thepfy
Martin
martin at members.evolt.org
Fri Dec 28 10:52:24 CST 2001
On Friday, December 28, 2001, at 03:21 pm, spinhead wrote:
> <Q type="newbie"> Is it common to treat public chat rooms as a 'private'
> space, a place to have personal conversation you don't want others to
> overhear? It sounds counterintuitive to me, but I'm no expert.</Q>
>
> For me, the whole discussion hinges on that point. If the answer is
> 'yes'
> then common usage suggests that we respect each other's privacy and if
> we're
> requested not to log something, we shouldn't. If the answer is 'no'
> then we
> should have our private conversations in a private venue.
And if it's a private venue, it has no business being called #evolt.
As I wrote on Admin the other day:
> if it's not representative
> of the community values, it's not evolt anyway. We either have it
> as an evolt-space, or we don't have it at all.
>
> Because if it's a choice of being like evolt or being like IRC, which
> is more important? If it's being like evolt, then it'll be like the
> other
> evolt spaces but in real time, whereas if it's being IRC-like[1],
> then it won't say evolt on it, because being IRC-like isn't evolt.
>
> Either way, the "can we have it called evolt and remain
> abusive by just not pimping it?" debate is moot.
>
> What we have is 2 questions:
> 1) Do we want an evolt IRC channel? If so, it needs to follow the
> same community rules as the rest of evolt.
> 2) Do individuals want something else that's not that? If so, it's
> up to them to do that, but not call it evolt.
>
> [1] defined as the kind of place where the log captured by Adrian
> is accepted as normal
If you want a private space, go have a private space. But #evolt
is an evolt public space. It should either follow the same rules as
the rest of the evolt public spaces, or it shouldn't exist. Those rules
include non-abusive behaviour, and an archive.
Heaven knows, Michele, you've shouted long and hard enough
about Admin being publically archived. Follow the logic.
Consistency, that's all I want.
Martin
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