Back in 2 weeks. Don't think there's anything that absolutely depends on me being online - John's got thechat admin access, and a login for wiki.evolt.org management (I think one or 2 other sysadmin members do too). Cheers Martin -- Now playing on iTunes: "The Beat(En) Generation" by The The from 'Dark Side of the 80s' - a hit from way back in 1985