[theforum] the new CSS... now, please?

[Tara Cleveland]

Hi Erika,

> I'm installing the "about us" page I had running on t.e.o.  It has some
> h4s. At this point, we have NO STYLE on H4s.  Not to mention other
> type/tags are unattractively rendered Can we please fix this now?

I understand that you don't like the styles of the headlines (not to
mention other elements), but in fact there *are* styles applied to
H4s. These styles follow the design that was originally created by
Issac. Having been one of the persons to work on recreating Issac's
design in CSS/HTML/Drupal I can tell you that there was a fair amount
of thought that was put into rendering the design faithfully, and it's
not as random and unstyled as it might seem.

I looked back at the gifs we were given of Issac's design to see if
the current site was anything like it, and the site's not that far off
the original design. It may not seem like it at this point - but there
is method to the madness of the evolt.org typography and design.

Sometimes there are multiple styles in various different files that
intertwine with each other. I vaguely (I think I blocked out most of
the frustration from my memory) remember some of the styles being a
huge pain in the ass to code because of the way they interacted with
other styles and elements.  If you remember from Elfur's post, some of
the problem is actually in the coding of the original articles - not
in the styles at all.

There was a suggestion that we use Martin's version of the Mollio text
styles. Has anyone actually seen what that does to the current design?
Which styles are being used? Please tell me we aren't going to end up
with bright red headlines! I'm fairly sure a cut and paste job from
Mollio is going to cause problems with the rest of the design.

Erika, perhaps you could outline exactly what you think needs to be
changed - something more concrete then SUCKAGE or that you hate it.
What would you change the styles of the headlines to? What would you
change the styles of the paragraphs, lists etc to so that the
typography didn't suck and why would changing it that way make it not
suck?

Personally, I think someone going in and changing the styles as they
see fit will actually make them less consistent and perhaps cause more
problems than were there in the first place. Having said that, I was
never entirely happy with the text in Issac's design. I'm glad to have
a discussion about how/what the styles should be changed to - I just
think there should be more concrete discussion about it than I hate
it, it sucks before someone goes in and messes about with it all.

Cheers,
Tara