hey list, frames + cross browser/platform... grrr... anybody know any tricks... a simple sample frameset: problem is, netscape doesn't seem to respect the height's i've set: it renders the top frame 4px too short. (116px in netscape, the correct 120px in IE, (i haven't checked on a mac yet)). any thought's on this? in generally, creating a tight-layout frameset, and having it be consistent in height, width, padding etc, seems almost impossible. any good tricks, references, or best practices? thanks team, nate vicksburg collective nate@vicksburgcollective.com