Hi Martin, Pretty neat. But it seems like they also have a bit of confusion about the difference between being cynical and merely bitching. I mean really; "twist off bottlecaps that rip your fingers". Sorry - that's just bitching. I suppose one *could* find a way to be cynical about bottlecaps ... [well, maybe Tom Robbins could!] ... but it certainly wouldn't be anything nearly so mundane! RonL. -----Original Message----- From: martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com Fantastic - right up my street. http://www.i-cynic.com/things.asp