>best of luck to them though, (no, i don't really mean that ;)). honestly, you're more cynical than even i am on a bitchy-andrew-day. are you trying for the 'aardvark of the year' award? :) the airport jukebox is kinda their line, though, don't you think? would it be bulbous-'aqua' pyramid shaped, or a sphere? that would best compliment the iSub and soundSticks: http://www.harman-multimedia.com/devo/html/hsticks_overview.html and the: http://www.apple.com/speakers/ -- Andrew Forsberg --- uberNET - http://uber.net.nz/ the pander - http://thepander.co.nz/