Hey - not sure how many of you remember the thread on Dreamless about clueless client quotes, but it's re-surfaced since the demise of Dreamless at the following URL: http://www.derailer.org/clientquotes.php Very funny stuff. And, this one works better than the old Dreamless stuff that took forever to load. bob -- bob davis bobd at members.evolt.org http://www.bobdavis.org/