>>i see somebody today recommended huey >Huey? I missed that one!! >>one o' my favourite tools, many years ago >Ah, where can I find huey? hi shirley see tip in this post -- http://lists.evolt.org/oldarchive/Week-of-Mon-19990712/002610.html rudy p.s. it is *always* pronounced "ess cue ell" and especially "my ess cue ell" except when it isn't, as in "sequel server" (although "ess cue ell server" is common, too)