Now, are those (http://www.bards.ee/) a bunch of devoted LOTR fans or YES(!)? The design swept me off my feet. (thou shalt have DSL or more) Thanks, Lauri -- Tharapita Creations [server-client web applications] lauri.vain at tharapita.com http://www.tharapita.com/ Mobile: +372 53 410 610