This was an interesting read: http://www.amazon.com/Starfish-Spider-Unstoppable-Leaderless-Organizations/dp/1591841437 The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations evolt.org is a starfish. that's why we can regenerate ourselves from an amputated leg. monkeyjunkies was a spider. thats why it died when Taylor left. Erika PS I wish I could get dreamhost to display my email name correctly on webmail. hrmph. people should not let squirrels run their webmail. hamsters, maybe..... or koi. I'd like to use koi mail.