Rudy .. (or Matt ?) or anyone else that still has the old files .. Can you please send to me the origingal message as being replied to in this archived message: http://lists.evolt.org/adminarchive/Week-of-Mon-20011203/000014.html I don't have it .. and the old admin archives are gone. Perhaps my recollection of the events is flawed .. and if so, I'll gladly shut up forever. Thanks, Michele