[Theforum] Re: [Theforum] RE: [Theforum] Re: [£££forum] Answers
Martin
martin at members.evolt.org
Sun Apr 21 13:43:13 CDT 2002
On Sunday, April 21, 2002, at 12:15 am, Hugh Blair wrote:
>>> an earlier, related post:
>>> http://lists.evolt.org/theforumarchive/Week-of-
>>> Mon-20020218/003176.html
>>>
>>> hope that helps someone with something.
>>
>> Yes, it clarifies that that hardware belongs to evolt.org, not to Dan
> [snip]
>
> I didn't jump in at the time of this message (Tue, 19 Feb 2002) because
> others seemed to be carrying the 'ball', and I didn't follow-up with
> my thoughts (me bad), so here goes.
>
> I thought that after djc posted this, someone would bring up the issue
> of reimbursing him for his expenditures. That didn't happen. Here's my
> recap of what Dan's provided, and what evolt.org should reimburse him,
> if we want all the hardware under the evolt.org's ownership.
I would think that evolt.org should reimburse proper expenses
incurred on its behalf. A normal expenses policy would be
something along the lines of:
1. Non-predictable items (eg expenses incurred in replacing a
failed piece of hardware - scope needs more definition, though)
are paid for in the first instance by the individual involved, and
reimbursed on production of a proper receipt (I assume there's
a standard for this in the US - here it's a VAT receipt) plus a
declaration that it is an expense, not a donation. On payment
of the expense, the ownership transfers to evolt.org
2. Predictable items (eg "We should upgrade beo by adding
an extra 256Mb RAM") should be agreed to by an appropriate
evolt.org group (eg
http://freezope2.nipltd.net/acorn/evolt/rethink/MonkeyDo
but certainly involving the treasurer) and bought by evolt.org.
3. All purchases *must* demonstrably further the aims and
objectives of evolt.org more effectively than any alternative
It's a *slight* bit trickier with previous items as
1) Some of the stuff on that inventory were donations from other
evolters (and companies)
2) Some of them were built (in part at least) from dumpster
diving
3) It's not clear from the remaining items which were intended
as donations to evolt.org (iow Dan is as free as the rest of us
to donate stuff)
4) A number of the items on the inventory are clearly predictable
ones, and I'm not sure it's fair to demand that evolt.org assume
liability now for items which evolt.org didn't agree to the
expenditure
of its funds at the time. This is true even though evolt.org benefits
from the items, and I'm fairly sure each time a purchase was
mentioned,
evolt.org said "Great, thanks" - the difference was that it wasn't on
the basis of "We could use more memory and it'll cost $x"
I'm fairly sure all these are resolvable btw.
(I've put all the above on the wiki at
http://freezope2.nipltd.net/acorn/evolt/ExpensesPolicy
feel free to amend)
Cheers
Martin
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