hey, i notice on the test site the urls to articles are now: http://test.evolt.org/article/Pick_one_standards_or_a_browser/25/3696/index.cfm is that a permanent thing? i assume the article var is ignored anyway. is it just there to make the links look more meaningful or what? just wondering. </ol> ____________________________________________________ v i b e m e d i a http://www.vibe.co.nz/ po box 10-492 wellington, new zealand phone +64 21 210-7845 oliver at lineham.co.nz